Which is the worst top BR MBT in your opinion?

what do you think HA stands for.

For some reason I thought you said weren’t, i’m sorry that one is on me. Like i’m generally sorry for being rude.

However it is a the same abram’s correct just with an added armor package. Meaning it could in theory come to the game as a modification like the chicken wire armor of the stryker, or the mine protection on some higher teir tanks.

There’s only one reason to bring Chinese helicopters

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It’s also the reason they were up BR’d to oblivion. Used to be available on much funner line-ups.

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Yeah but they nerfed the seeker on the TY-90 in what I assume was preparation for adding the PL-8B but didn’t so now it’s not as busted as it used to be. The AKD’s are fine, nothing special basically a hellfire thats slower.

I never had fun playing in China

7.1s and defense are very poor, with no major advantages except for 75km/h

Since I played 122 a few days ago, I’ve been getting happier and happier

The ability to defend and survive with a high angle cannon barrel and shield is something that China’s top MBT cannot experience

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Funny thing is, Gaijin decided to remodel the ZTZ99A after too many players complained that it was inaccurate (yes, the model of the tank itself was wrong, the LFP was oversized).

Yet, after the remodel the length of the tank is still incorrect, the UFP protection somehow got worse (because Gaijin doesn’t think China can make composite armor better than T-72B from 1985), there are no spall liners (yet PLZ05, mid-2000s SPG arrives with spall liners), and they somehow made the turret cheeks have a weakspot when it is clearly above the turret ring.

To show you how little Gaijin cares about this tank, the left turret cheek and the right turret cheek don’t even have the same protection value.



This literally makes ZERO sense, especially when they’re the same thickness in the x-ray and visually.

This has been a problem since ZTZ99A first came out, which is over two years ago.

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Chally is by far the worst top tier MBT. I’d rather have mobility over armor anytime + DM53 is far far better than the british trash L27 shell. Nothing is worse than being not only slow but also having a trash gun, oh and useless armor and a terrible internal layout.

I have to add that there is literally no way you people think that the abrams and the leclerc are WORSE than the challys. Either the people voting on these threads are trolling or the forum community has lead poisoning from eating paint chips. This “poll” is exactly why vooooooooting on something is pointless when the people vooooooooting have 0 clue how this game works.

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Also that AH1 RWR sucks, and this isn’t like sth insane that demolishes entire teams AFAIK it is less and less significant now, especially with ARH missiles. I really would say Z10 at least RN is not a 12.0 heli, not even 11.7 worthy considering u can’t see anything.

I agree, I’m just saying that the only time I use Chinese heli it is for the TY-90 and I need to shoot down air.

100% agree. The Chally is also incredibly easy to kill when I play the HSTV-L it’s the tank I one tap most often. No side spall liners and the ammo rack is literally in the middle of the tank. It’s as bad as T-series except T-series have actual armor.

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Its the APS on the BN. Its enough to put the CR2 ahead of a lot of other tanks at the moment. If all tanks had that though, then yeah, it would be easily one of the worst tanks in the game at the moment, and depending on the situation, likely the worst.

But the other CR2s without APS (AKA all of the rest) yeah, nothing justifying them being anywhere near top tier at the moment

no, the aps only works in very specific situations and only blocks apfsds at long ranges. 90% of the time it does almost nothing to help you. When it works its great and gods gift, but we are talking about overall and overall its near useless in most situations.

  1. STRV
  2. 2A7
  3. Abrams
  4. Leclerc
  5. Merkava
  6. BVM
  7. Type 10
  8. ZTZ99
  9. Chally 2E

It also blocks all AGMs and ATGMs, well, at least 4 without rearm. Given the fact that things like Su-34s are so dominant at top tier at the moment, the APS can actually provide a level of protection

Its not worth losing all other qualities for that mediocre level of protection. Again its about averages not the one situation that the tank shines in.

as a player who hasn’t played toptier yet but im on my way to T 80, I think Merkava and Challie are worse than Ariete. They really lack mobility and Challie has lots of weakspots despite its massive armor, and Merkava is a joke in terms of protection. Ariete has that, but also better mobility and great gun. Armor is still nothing that Leclerc, Ariete and Merkava could make you envy about, but Italians surpass Frenchies in gun power (I think Leclerc is the worst top tier gun rn?) and Jews in mobility. And British - both, I think?

Strictly personal opinion as I’ll discover everything myself soon

Its a nice surprise to a BMP2M player, dumps the Kornets at you and is shocked when you dont die.
A Heli will just focus you with the gun, rockets or more atgms
Darts is a strange one sometimes it works great other times it allows an HSTVL to snipe you from 2km away!

KH-38 yes I have seen it work, but the splash damage leaves you really broken and in need of a 40+ second repair.

The reality is though the CR2 is basically a Leopard 2A4 with in some places superior armour. The great thermals/aps system do not make up for it.

The questioner is asking about the worst BR MBT and not the best BR MBT.

that would just be one of the too many leopard 2 variants in game, its too obvious of a question

Leclerc is worse than Ariete AMV, although it has certain uniqueness. I would say Ariete is not bad, it’s just mediocre. But Leclerc has advantages (auto loader, speed, etc.) that are mediocre compared to the others (Type 10 and TKX), and key vulnerabilities that are worse than any of the others even Ariete. So Leclerc is basically the worst MBT by its specifications, this is unarguably true even a mediocre Ariete does much better in protection and ammo compared to Leclerc, never mention that Ariete is not the only option you can go with for Italian top tier. So adding up all these arguments, it’s clear that we have four huge piles of shit sitting on the top tier of French TT. And this is even not the best part - If you grind out one Leclerc S1 first, congrats! You are going to stick with this largest piece of shit with a BR of 12.0 and nothing to line up with for a really really long time and have to do one death leave until you get another slightly better pile of shit.

It’s armour is not better to Ariete but against stock rounds they fare much better. Also 5s reload still beats almost everyone, it’s also really manoeuvrable. I would argue Ariete has no advantage, except mobility which is matched by a couple of other vehicle.