I don’t think if matters much in a EFT vs an F-15C
Its a pretty big disadvantage
Enemy gets a free shot
the EF has 2 options
either properly merge headon and eating a Aim-120 during that
or the EF has to stay in the notch and the F-15 can just slot in behind it
Top down amraam go brrr
F-15 gets a free shot
Maybe two if the euro stinks
Euro does win the df ofc
But starting from this position is objectively not good
You seem to misunderstand that defensive flying is a full strategy, and is not as simple as “Stay in the notch”
and you dont understand that having no missiles is worse than still having missiles
But the EFT doesn’t have to have no missiles, what aren’t you getting
Idk how it’s hard to understand that being forced to df from an objectively disadvantageous position is fine
So. By your logic, the F-16A (12.3) could be the same BR as the Tornado F3 Late, because the F-16 will win in the merge and the F-16A just needs to fly defensively?
then the F-15 will just spam the EF to death
If we get to df range then we might as well ig ore the fact that the euro has missiles at all
Since F-15C GE has more missiles it can force the euro defensive till this distance is achieved
Then the euro has to avoid the F-15’s free gun solution (something I would never gamble on surviving)
Does that Tornado have AIM-120s? If so, it’s not comparable to a plane with 0 radar missiles
But just notch, and eventually you’ll force the Tornado into the merge
Tornado gets free shots on you
W strat
Side-aspect 9M go brrr
No, the EFT would still have AIM-9s left, pretty potentially usable in a dogfight
9Ms are not useful in a df unless the enemy tries to extend
But since you’re a euro you can still just catch up to them so like
Moot point
I haven’t said “Just notch” here
Im thinking the Tonka is outside of 9M range.
even then it has enough countermeasures to not care
so we are moving the goalpost
you are the one saying that a supirior flightmodel will just win