Where is american toptier Jet

Not significant tbh
You don’t need to manouver much and since you do get an aesa radar you can require lock very quickly

EFT will win if the joust is close though, unless C GE decides to MCM, which brings the fight more in its favor (whether you like it or not MCM is a tactic)

angle gate + enemy DL

you seem to be forgetting this is an F-15C, its FM is like an actual plane and not nonsense UFO like eurocanard

you still have to traverse a much larger distance than even the German EFT to get back inside of radar limits

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Honestly this isn’t going anywhere.

You keep it 14.3 and it will dominate with 1.7 KD .

Goes into 14.7 and it becomes mid.

I just wanna say some thing. I just don’t want highly good defense and attack capabilities jets to be at the same br as 14.3 like J10c and F16v

i think J-10C could use a buff and honestly F-16V/PoBIT is bad enough there is an argument for 14.0

This shouldn’t be 14.3 anyways
Gaijin is just stupid leaving it where it is

It doesn’t matter what the case is
C GE will stay 14.3, EX gets added and then it’s just the American version of Su-30SM vs SM2

Atp gaijin is way too predictable for me
It’s always the same thing over and over again regardless of nation

The only buff I could think of is giving B3 engine or better CMS option

how much more thrust, how many more countermeasures and what size?

B3 are around 13 % more thrust.

As for CMS l, same as USA, can swap for small. Although I don’t have hard evidence of that

compared to AL-31 or WS-10?

Ws10B

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How many small?
J-10C currently uses 72 large caliber CMs so you’d need a solid (larger) amount of normal or smaller caliber CMs to match that or be better

144kn on the engine. Just got that info from J-series forum

Gonna lock it up, but as I said. No hard confirmation

Pls double check source’s reliability too
Some patriotic players have a habit of falsifying info and Chinese players from my experience can be more patriotic than most (comparable to US/RU players tbh)

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I am only based on hard sources. As for this I don’t have but I did found some images But I need one favor.

Could you send me a close shot of the CMS in-game

I can’t
I won’t be booting the game for a good while

Not all of us play exclusively air quake

Yea 0.01% of the community plays sim which is its own unbalanced bad gamemode

Argument is probably long over but I wanted to contribute my two cents anyway:

  • F-15C GE is arguably worse than the future F-15EX which is a budget AESA-Typhoon on account of having less radar gimbal limits, no IRST (unless taking Legion pod which still produces drag and weight), no MAWS, and having similar climb-rate and acceleration to the Typhoon but worse maneuverability.

  • F-15C GE can remain at 14.3 while being worse than the F-15EX which can be introduced at 14.7 but that would still be worse than the AESA-Typhoon at the same battle-rating.

What if they put the f15ex at 14.7? Would you still say the f15Ge should be at the same BR as the f15ex? Just curious