When is the Su-57 coming to War Thunder

[Zannafrancy12]

@TheArcticFoxxo

1 confirmed kill, 1 contested kill. Both in late October of 2022, with imagery of Su-57 '81775 at Belbek during the time of the shootdown, claim of range of shootdown coinciding with where the aircraft had fallen.

Zannafrancy12:

Confirmed by who? all articles i can find reference this less that reliable Су-57 крушит ВВС Украины: Су-27 Зеленского уничтожен секретной русской ракетой. Пентагон опасается давать Киеву F-16 - Свободная Пресса - Новости Украины. Спецоперация на Украине. Украина последние новости. Яндекс новости. Новости Яндекс. article as their source, and unless you’re counting the friendly fire s70 kill factually there have been NO confirmed su57 kills.

@TheArcticFoxxo

It’s unironically been seen by-eye over the frontline in Donetsk…

again seen by who?

[Zannafrancy12]

@ron_2303

KH-69 kills were also confirmed…
And from my knowledge only the Su-57can use the KH-69 as it is a redesign of the KH-59 so it can fit into the internal weapons bay of the 57

kh-69 can be used by 90% of russian multirole fighters, the redesign being to fit the su57 doesnt change that

[ron_2303]

why would you use your expensive redesign on a platform you can use a cheaper version on?

[Zannafrancy12]

why would use an expensive airframe you have VERY few off to shoot a standoff long range munition on a target well outside capable enemy air defenses?

[ron_2303]

because it obviously works

[Zannafrancy12]

you’re not making much sense, also kh 69 is more capable than 59 its not simply the same but smaller. you can think what you think but the assumption “must be su57 cause it was a kh69” isnt a logical one.

[ron_2303]

then prove to me that any platform besides the SU-57 ever carried the Kh-69 into combat

[Zannafrancy12]

proove to me that kh69 was ever carried by su57 in combat then

[ron_2303]

oh yeah prove to me that the f22 carries the aim120 in its weapons bay ahh statement

[Zannafrancy12]

jesus.

[quartas121]

you can find pictures of F-22 with AIM-120 very easily, can you find pictures of Su-57 with Kh-69 in combat?

[Zannafrancy12]

[ron_2303]

so you are saying it dosent exist beause russia isnt uploading propaganda to the internet

a few questions:

• why would they develop a weapon system to specifically fit into the weapons bay of the Su-57
• why wouldn’t you use it on the platform it was designed for
• why would you show of active usage of your new weapon system on social media / internet

[quartas121]

how is it propaganda to have pictures of tests available online?

1. so it can shoot from the weapons bay
2. because its expensive and risky
3. stuff just makes its way online a lot. its not like russian air force is behind every single image of a flanker

[ron_2303]

@quartas121

stuff just makes its way online a lot

so where is the ngad footage?
or its tech demonstator footage

[Zannafrancy12]

why would they use their most modern cruise missile solely on the su57 just because they can? why would they fly the su57 when they have no need for its stealth capability? do you think america only uses LRASM on f35?
im not saying that they didnt use the su57 to launch it, im saying that you cant equate every kh69 launch to su57, especially when su57 isnt even the best choice for said weapon in most cases.

[quartas121]

thats extremely classified. whereas russians are actively trying to get other countries to buy the Su-57

[ron_2303]

@quartas121

thats extremely classified

ironic

[Zannafrancy12]

@ron_2303

oh yeah prove to me that the f22 carries the aim120 in its weapons bay ahh statement

“shows proof”

@ron_2303

so you are saying it dosent exist beause russia isnt uploading propaganda to the internet

choose one. or stop making such bad faith arguments.

[Zannafrancy12]

stop giving into his bad faith arguments