Whats the deal with the M53/59 and the Kugelblitz?

It was too powerful before, and certainly needs no buff now. The pen nerf wasn’t a nerf to the Kugel, it was just Gajin’s calculator being standardized.

No, it really was not. Certain contemptible people freaked the fuck out about SPAAG shredding their tanks and whined until snail serviced them by neutering it. Even though this game routinely has us using literally everything else in ways they weren’t designed to be.

IMHO, SPAAG across the board need to be rebuffed in their tank-killing prowess, and their anti-air ability also needs help. The counters to CAS should intentionally be just as easy to use successfully at shooting down CAS as CAS is bombing most tanks. And in order for those SPAAG to be in proper position in average player hands, they gotta be able to kill tanks easily at least from the sides or the idiots will sit in their own spawns uselessly, then wonder why they die to planes still.

You can .50 cal the Prada’s ammo boxes on the gun and kill it… that’s why it’s 6.3 it’s a very squishy spaa.

cough cough I don’t think a Praga is equal to a Coelian at all.

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Certain reasonable people complained that a tank that costs less than normal tanks is better at killing tanks that normal tanks, whilst also being arguably overpowered against air (meaning you can’t even counter the OP vehicle with CAS).

It’s not like it was just some noob group of whiners, it was everyone who didn’t play Germany.

Again, the nerfs were justified.

I never said that I agree with SPAAG being 70SP “borderline-throwaway” vehicles, man. Also an SPAAG you can’t overpressure from a mile away doesn’t mean it’s overpowered. A Kugel will die to a bomb drop or direct rocket hit like any other tank would.

Anyone who complained about SPAAG killing their tanks through legitimate means like ordinary side or rear shots any other normal tank would do should not be listened to anymore. Exploitation of armor holes, MG ports, barrel damage, and cupola shots is a different story - all that is bullshit in my book

No, they were overkill, and need to be reverted completely. The game has changed a ton in nearly 10 years since they first started happening to the gun and ammo in question. Chances are the majority of people who called for such nerfs are long gone, too.

I mean M53/59 you can kill him even with the coaxial, just aim for the gunner first, or use explosive munitions.

Kugel a little harder, just use your main gun as if a normal mbt

Exactly. It’s a truck.

Yup, the only “modestly difficult” SPAAG to kill are the Coelian and XM246, the former because it has some level of actual armor and the latter due to a bugged damage model. Everything else may as well be glass.

I remember fondly while spading my T-10M I got jumped by an ItsPv, he barreled me but forgot to take out my commander-mounted 14.5, which I promptly hosed him down with and killed him with. And that one is mostly a normal tank.