Yes because GJ will give you F-22 /2005 with similar weapons current 4,5 gens have. They won’t update the weapons because if they update 4,5s all previous tiers they’ll be unplayable (because why decompress properly?) .
Then they’ll bring Su-57 , which has far more modern armament that what we have now, so they can’t give it R-77 and keep it there.
Then after everyone crying Russian bias , they’ll bring F-35 for the others to have a 5th gen… they won’t update F-22, but they’ll give F-35 AIM-120Ds and F-35 will still be bad because it is not an air superiority fighter.
Then after half a year or something they’ll give you F-22/2025 with proper armament etc. Which will make everyone else play second role except US and Russia and suddenly a wild China appears with J-20 that for some reason (the chinese said so) it will be better than both ( Chinese market has money) then nerfed to the same levels to be on par with F-22/Su-57.
Meanwhile people will still say Russian bias , because everything else will happen in 1-2 months period and Su-57 will be unchecked for half a year ,the other side will imply but it was another half a year that F-22/2005 was OP and the blue side will say it didn’t have proper missiles etc.
How many times the same thing has happened?
And while practically there is no Russian bias, there is the sales bias of GJ and the crappy management and planning they do.
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It’s almost like we go through this every year
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Gotta say, im pretty tired of it.
“We want f14” - gets f14
“We need f16” - gets f16
“We need f15s” gets f15s
“Give us f18s” gets f18s…
Now how long before it starts, “USA needs f22 to be competitive!”
Not saying folks here are saying that, this is a fairly normal discussion, but how likely is it the demands start bnext patch
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Ok, they won’t give it R-77 only anyway. Because they will need a reason to bring AIM-120D after…
They’re going to complain the SPAAs are too OP and that the F-22 is required to stay competitive. Any attempt to nerf the YX/F-22 will be met with “skill issue” and “but in real life” while they demand every other plane be nerfed. Remember, they are still in denial about how the Rafale is better than the F-22
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dont worry there’s no hurt in adding f22 now if the rafale (better) is already in game
Situation probably would be more simplier and predictable blue fans won’t be happy by F-22 performance.
Yep, the F-22 should be more manoeuvrable than the Su-27, faster than the F-104, more flares than the Grippen, bigger payload than the Tu-4 China, and has APS to take out every missile
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For sure bratan, but with missiles that “know where the target is at all times”. Hint #77 fly by, then return fire. You know how it goes, otherwise there will be post every week about overpowered.
Oh im aware of how its gonan go mate
Same as always xD
It’s not meant to be a dogfighter think people dont realise that, it is really capable air frame but the delta wing euro planes beat it in the close range no?
Whats your point? that is completely Irrelevant to what I described.
As well as this, the F18 at top tier was never going to be meta when dropped with stuff like teh EF2000 etc.
(stat sharks not very reliable BTW), However that doesn’t not change the way it was requested.
people demanded the F14 when the mig23 was released.
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which completely changed the entire top tier game play loop, one plane.
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then we got the plethora of folks demanding the F16 and more modern mig variants e.g the 29
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then the F15 as the 16. wasn’t enough.
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then people demanded the F18 as it wasn’t enough, ( however the caveat is, they want it with far better weapons, e.g the newer AIM120’s mounted)
So the folks who make these demadns really, are never happy.
do you believe the game needs an F22 in it now? after we just got early gen 4.5s?
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is your point that if US players are normal and dont ask for anything their top tier is supposed to be still F-4 now? i dont get it
Wow, the plane that just came out doesn’t have a high KD? Colour me shocked.
No, the point is American mains demand vehicle after vehicle and will whine if they don’t get it. They don’t care about balance, they just want to get the newest equipment as fast as possible. There’s a reason why War Thunder was mostly balanced for the longest time. Gaijin took the time to have more spaced out BRs. Now we have the worst compression at top tier, and there is nothing we can do because American mains are demanding F-22s when the highest BR we have is 14.0, do you really think it is wise for F-22s to be 14.0?
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My point is, people especially for the US posts, have little to no patience we’ve dropped F16s, F18s, F15s and F14s and chewed through to nearly modern fking times in the space of just over 18 months! F14 was a little older granted but cmon mate.
Their top tier has been the best since the F14A was released.
F4E was a closer competition with the mig21s until the F4E got the sparrows then it romped ahead.
so yeah, I want the game fixed most people want new game modes, we have enough planes and modern tanks rn.
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also my point is the US players are never satisfied with the stuff that just releases, F15A released, oh its not the proper one we want the C cause it has HMD, and aim120s, even when the F15A was and still is one of the best planes for its BR.
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F15C released, oh it’s too heavy, (whcih it wasn`t) it needs better missiles. which it doesn’t
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F16C released and folks were complaining it was heavier, as it is IRL. and demanded the F15s
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the F15E/I released and folks were crying it wasn’t good enouhg, when it literally had free reign over ARB until the patch after, it could literally fly up , spam off its missiles ,and turn around, untouchable. and still folks demanded more the F18.
Hell theres people that said the F18 should be beating the likes of Rafale in 1v1s whcih is just false.
see where im coming from now ?
cause if not, then there’s no way to explain this in a more simple way
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bingo.
We’ve dropped more high tech modern planes in such a small BR area in a shorter time frame than almost all the korean and cold war jets dropped.
I started and phantoms were top tier, now were literally seeing folks demand the F22 xD
hell the only reason the EF2000 and such was added was to actively keep up with the US platforms. the russian stuff wasn’t really that potent until the addition of the Su30 in my experience.
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Most of the blatant issues with the Russian one were resolved once it hit production (for what limited run they’ve managed). The really problematic ones were preproduction test platforms for the most part. However, not remotely convinced about the Chinese platform from what I’ve seen, so not defending that.
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I would like a competitive Gripen at least before they decide to stop adding new stuff and fix the game. Fixing the game is important, but bit rough to play Sweden in the face of other eurodeltas. The staying power of current Gripen is nonexistent, even if we ignore the myriad issues with its agility and payload capacity 😿
Also su 30 only really potent on account of air to ground payload, and the fact a russian platform finally has AAMs that can account for the substandard topspeed for BVR, in my personal opinion.
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