What would you think of a Leopard 1A3/1A4?

Seeing the 304 PzBtl back in the monthly decals section, I’ve come to think about why one of the most symbolic Leopards is missing. It’s safe to say that the 1A3/4 was pretty much the spinal cord of Bundeswehr armored formations, yet it’s nowhere to be found in the TT.

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While not being a suggestion, would you like to see it? If so, at what BR?

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could see it come soon. With the Australia subtree now a concrete thing it could come as the 1a3 and the AS1 to both germany and Britain as a very strong 9.3

I’d love more leopard 1s to be added.

Firstly no Britain don’t need it. And it wouldn’t be 9.3 lmao

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Realistically 1a3 sits at 8.3 and same with 1a4 unless they give it something special like better ammo then 8.7

neither does germany. Will still be a cool addition

besides this variant is more notable for Australia than Germany being their replacement for centurion until the Abrams, not some random footnote variant amongst several

Could see it easily be 9.3. its fast, stabilised and would have a decent dart

Insanely wrong but whatever.

Please go look at German rank 5 and it’s win rates then come back and say they don’t need it.

Unless they give it a fake Lazer range finder dm33 no. It’s just not.

Absolutely needed.
Germany:

  • Leopard 1A3
  • Leopard 1A4

Britain (Australia):

  • Leopard AS1 (early)
  • Leopard AS1 (late)
    (could also maybe get a Canadian C1)

Sweden (Denmark):

  • Leopard 1DK
  • Leopard 1A5DK / DK-1

Israel (Greece):

  • Leopard 1A3GR

Also options for wherever Turkey (Leopard 1A3T1, Leopard 1A3T1 Volkan) ends up

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Missing a french (dutch) leopard 1V
Still just in most cases it’s just not needed like in Britain who already have like 8 8.3-8.7s lmao

Thats german main issue not vehicle issue.

sure a few vehicles have a bit of a struggle but theres a very noticable pattern. German tanks are doing far better away from that nation.

the only thing germany is suffering from is its players.

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fair enough. solid 9.0 then going off of what we see at 8.7 with dm23

Okay 2 good tanks (ish both not stabilized) and just light tanks. Surely that’s enough for the rank 🤷‍♀️

Leopard 1Vs are upgraded 1A1s, not 1A3/1A4s

Still too high lmao. Your acting like it’s a huge improvement then like a 1a2 or tbh a regular leopard 1 what it’s not. It’s a 8.3 maybe a 8.7 at highest but would be very unlikely.

its a massive upgrade over chieftains or T62.

The AS1 does have a LRF and was upgraded to 1A5 equivalent to include thermals and such. Idk about ammunition used [for the AS1] but assuming a DM33 counterpart it [the AS1] could be 9.3.
The German 1A3 meanwhile is solidly 8.3 with DM13 and no LRF, while the 1A4 would be 8.7 with DM23.

Oops meant to reply to the message about LRF and DM33, whatever you’ll still see it

I’ll also link this for anyone interested in learning more about the 1A3 or who want to support its addition to the game :)

Because chieftains are fat but heavily armoured the leopard 1a3 is poorly armored but fast. T62 is kinda just in-between with decent armour,speed and a very good gun

Great thing I wasn’t talking of them. Just 1a3 in general.

Doesn’t matter to gajin tbh. But yea some nations did upgrade there 1a3s later on in the late 80s-90s for the danish at least to 1a5 spec and the bundeswehr did even test it but they were rare upgrades and not the standard


Here’s a photo of a German 1a3 with emes 18

And some of those the german variant is actually better like the kpz 70