I want to grind USA aviation tree, but the only good choice rn is F-4S (F-20 is shit). I reaaaallyyy wanted F/A-18C Early, but its not on sale. Also I want to buy Senrai Maidens M1A1 HC. And I can’t choose now, should I buy Abrams and wait for the Hornet on the Summer Sale or buy F-4S and start grinding now, and then get Abrams?
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Don’t play ground, it’s just disappointment central, especially with BMPT’s right now.
F-4S from my experience is a well balanced jet, but the matchmaker makes it so bad. It’s got a decent radar, good missiles, but it’s flightmodel and overall performance lacks heavily when used in an uptier.
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Yeah, flightmodel is the main thing thats bothering me
Wouldnt be worth it if it was. M1A1HC is the best 12.0 in the game. F-4S is a really good option, strongest 12.0 air
I think you should wait for the hornet
Good plane at a bad br, constant uptiers to 12.7 which is death. I got the AV-8B (NA) which was surprisingly good in air rb as well as ground. As for the Abrams, I’d go for the M1 KVT since you’ll get touched by the bmpt at 12.0. Also since ur rank IV I’d consider the F-89 since it’ll teach you the basics for jet combat before upgrading to a higher tier premium, otherwise the learning curve is just gonna be pain.
Clickbait + f18 or av8
Does hornet ever go on sale?
The problem with the M1 KVT is its super weak dart for its BR.
371mm pen is just pathetic for a 10.7, and it can still see BMPT’s in an uptier.
Better off just getting the Click-Bait, or the M1A1 HC, same thing anyway, and on sale too.
Actually has a dart that can deal with any tank it encounters:
It should, I got the Swiss one 50% off in a pack (Spanish vehicles or something) a while back.
It might take a while before they go on individual sale though, it depends how they well they are selling at full price, the F-4S didn’t go on sale for ages after release if I recall correctly.
at least it’s a max of 4 at a time at that BR now. It really dose need M833 though, an extra ~20mm pen across the board would be a decent little buff that shouldn’t push it’s BR up and would bring it fairly close to DM23 on the L2A4
The Senrai one doesn’t have the damn chair on the roof or the bedrolls on the radio antenna, which is a plus, while that junk doesn’t trigger HE rounds or anything it really bulks up the silhouette when you try to peek over a hill
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I would recommend the F4S, is is a great plane, it has Aim7F at 12.0, if you change your radar to SCR PD HDN, clomb, you can do exacllent BVR!
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Defo.
Hornet requires some skill to use but its incredibly rewarding.
F-4S kinda fell off, its still good for its BR and doesnt see premium Su-30s but thats about it.
Hornet outclasses it in every possible metric.
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I mean, you have agile eagle, so, a bit of a plus?
Personally I say buy the A10A and go play sim
Not on sale and sim is hard for me
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Ok, so I checked and see that you play GRB and ARB, and basically don’t play Arcade. For ARB, you will definately have more issues with uptiers with the F-4S. I play arcade and don’t have as much of an issue with uptiers because I have a very full US air lineup for that BR range, and can use backups to use the F-4S multiple times, and and the F-4J, both with the good sparrows.
Second, in GRB the F-4S does not have fire and forget missiles. Not even basic Mavericks. However, the F/A-18C Early can carry up to 4x AGM-65F Mavericks, IR guided, much better than the early TV guided Mavericks.
I personally do not know “how good” the F/A-18C Early is for GRB, but it will pair better with the M1A1 HC than the F-4S, by a lot.
The F/A-18C Early is 12.3 BR in GRB, but that is only 0.3 BR higher than the M1A1 HC at 12.0. Not a big deal imo, you can get uptiered into the full 13.0 BR top top “bracket” with the M1A1 HC anyway, so that extra 0.3 BR probably wont make a big difference.
Furthermore, the F/A-18C Early actually has thermals, even though they are “only” Gen 1. But, the IR guided Mavericks can see at night by themselves too, with fairly good resolution. If you are opted into night battles, the F/A-18C Early will be usable, while the F-4S will be completely useless for CAS in night battles, it doesn’t even have basic night vision.
Thunder View’s website to see what NVD/TVD vehicles have (also great SPAA radar and missile info): https://thunderview.net/
So, imo you are probably better off getting the M1A1 HC now and waiting for the F/A-18C Early to go on sale later.
I bought F-4S the same minute you posted this
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Oh noes lmao. WELLLLLL did you use it yet?
Nope, just launched the game
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