The difference is it removes the uniqueness from Germany, its not really fair to not let them enjoy it for a while, sure id love to have the best spaa in warthunder and not use something that can barely be called a vehicle but id rather Sweden get something thats still unique to them thats decent without ruining what Germany already has.
Same even goes to the Buk, which yes Russia will probably get and probably shouldn’t go to Finland immediately. Its one of the reasons i suggested sweden get NASAM HML, its the completed model of SLAMRAAM which many US players were upset that sweden could even get because it would take away from their unique vehicle. Realistically sweden needs something that competes with current 12.0 but nothing really fits that.
IRIS-T SLM takes away from Germany.
NASAM HML lacks 9X making it less valuable for 12.0 especially given the performance of the FOX 3 missiles.
Buk M1 isn’t here so nothing to say other than same as with SLM.
RBS 23 is dated and a sidegrade to the Ito as aircraft simply fly out of site and require FnF munitions to handle.
Nomads, worse Elde but drivable.
Danish Skyranger would probably not be 12.0 worthy and more so a 11.3-11.7 additionally Germany would be upset given its a turret they created.
Realistically theres not much gaijin can do without making some community upset, imo the Elde should be removed like many French vehicles that simply dont work in warthunder and eventually replaced with a viable SPAA.
Gaijin wont fix the Elde, nor will they remove it. It will simply stay a unusable and worthless 420k rp sink to waste your rp on. Even if Gaijin removed it theres nothing they can feasibly add that wouldn’t make a group angry especially given the animosity people already have towards the swedish tree because of the Leos, additionally gaijin has yet to give Italy, Japan, Britian, and Russia a new SPAA to make them comparable to the SLM, and i can’t see them giving sweden a new spaa anytime soon.
Well i agree with you i grinded germany just for slm but gaijin really don’t care about uniqueness everyone have leopard now . Gripen was given to 3 nation while the country that made gripen was giving a glimpse version of it
Look ill say it im a sweden main (mainly because Danish stuff) but i was German before that, copy and paste isn’t that big of a deal imo but when a nation that created something doesn’t get it its a bit frustrating. Id rather gaijin occasionally let a nation keep their uniqueness for a while before giving ut to everyonem like the Fin 2A6 was a horrible thing because it was Germanys best MBT but now on sweden. Germany should’ve had multiple Leos by now that made them on par with sweden and Finland shouldve added the Fin 2A6 when Sweden needed it. Id much rather an actual TT patria over a Leo but whats done is done.
Again my main points are to try and find balance because i know the German players have animosity against sweden even though its not their fault its gaijins but i digress, i try to at least take the view of another group when i throw up suggestions if i can.
Again rn sweden might as well not even have an spaa given the Elde, but i dont want gaijin to take time to add something new and then leave the next nations in line to get an spaa with similar problems like the Elde.
Same even goes to the Buk, which yes Russia will probably get and probably shouldn’t go to Finland immediately
The TOR-M1 was also intended to be added to the USSR tree when it was added to the Chinese tree. It was mentioned by the devs during the dev stream, and i also believe it was mentioned on the forum.
However, the Pantsir was instead added and we’ve seen nothing about adding the TOR to the USSR tree since.
So either the Buk has a chance to be added to the Swedish tree through finland, or it gets replaced by a Western AA platform like the Patriot, NASAM HML (like you mentioned) or the more recently purchased IRIS-T SLM.
Same logic applies the KV-1A m1942 i assume they realized its already bot selling well and adding it to russia will just mean nobody buys it besides its not like they neeed it which is a bad thing to say i know.
As for RN i think theres a high chance Sweden doesn’t get a new spaa as gaijin believes the Elde is perfectly acceptable
Hallå alla spelare! Karnitin75 here.
(That means “Hello all players” for the non-Swedes here!)
Just a quick update—I’m taking a small step back from posting new suggestions. Between wrapping up my final year of school and my duties as a suggestions moderator, things are getting a bit busy.
That said, I’m still very much involved behind the scenes. I’ve been continuing research on Swedish vehicles and even got in touch with SPHF (Svenska Pansarhistoriska Föreningen – the Swedish Armored Historical Society) to gather more technical and historical details, particularly around Swedish smoke launcher systems.
However, in line with forum policy—which prioritizes player-submitted suggestions over moderator-initiated ones for the sake of fairness—I’ve decided not to post this as my own suggestion.
Instead, I’d love to support one of you in putting it together. If you’re interested, feel free to reach out—I’ll gladly help with research and formatting!
Some of the suggestions I’ve made so far:
Pbv 301 Ksp m/39
Terrängbil m/42 – “The Coffin”
J34B – with Afterburner!(Passed to the developers)
And yes—I’m still fighting to bring justice to the Lvakan m/48.
Same ammo as the AMX-13 DCA 40’s gun. Justice will be served. Join the resistance!Bug report
More updates soon™.
Thanks for all the support and passion for the Swedish tech tree.
They actually made me jump lol, they weren’t there then poof they were, doesn’t help i was watching a video which you can hear lmao, i wasn’t listening for engines lol
I think the funniest part is that one second they aren’t there, then the next you look over and there is just a 2S38 staring at the sky completely oblivious to the fact that you just merked a T series next to him XD
Love this lmao, and yeah the reload has gotten me killed a lot, ill kill like 2-3 guys then get pushed by another and i have to wait 6 seconds to put 1 round in, then another 4 seconds to start loading a round in every 1.5 seconds
Its why i think the 9035 is the best CV90, dual rack feed system, aphe round, 135mm pen vs 140mm, sure slowler firerate but far better mobility.
What Sweden really needs in my opinion, is new AA, for all BR, and some more aircraft in the 4.7-6.7 area (considering that fact that there are none) there are some cool swedish prototypes and stuff like that that could be a nice addition
Like the super Marine spitfire (yes, I know these were reconnaissance and had no armament in swedish military, but a lil bend of armament has never stopped gaijin)
Or the J-27 “Super spitfire” although it was never built it did make it into the prototyping stage and that’s enough for gaijin
Found this website with some decent history on the J-27 if you wanna take a look, it’s all in swedish but you can use the Google auto translate thingy on it
J 27 - SAAB L-27 J 27 - SAAB L-27
Overall I think what Sweden needs most are more AA and more low tier aircraft
Sweden needs a dedicated 3.0 spaa, a proper 4.0 spaa, a 5.0 spaa, the USH being 5.3 is worthless as 5.0 is a better lineup than 5.3 or 5.7, then 6.7 needs an SPAA and 8.0 needs one.
So we need
3.0
4.0
5.0
(5.7) could add finish 6x6 with the ZSU 23-2
6.7
8.0
Sweden needs actual 5.x aircraft, the fact they have none is a joke and gaijin needs to step up their game. Sweden also could do with some actual CAS considering they are arguably the weakest nation from 1.0-12.0 for CAS the only CAS with mentioning is the SAAB 105, which id kill for the J model.
As a side note for the website, i can read a bit of swedish, but half time I annoy a friend on discord to translate for me, helps knowing someone fluent in Swedish. Not like theres a lot of Danske things for me to read and suggest here lmao. Mostly copy and paste with a few unique things.
