Remember this is what the round is lol The Tungsten core is alot smaller
Like i have a 20 Akan m/45 round and an 7.62 casing and you can just imagine the scale lmao
Ikr, but that’s why I doubt 40g stands for core, even though this number now is much more realistic than 120.
Blockhaj:
The longer i try to wrap my head around this it gets more complicated.
what if 1 leo type is owned by multiple nations should it go to all of them or just germany
I see, but they give no info on core, which is quite terrible.
Aside of that, with 40g core, the pen is actually ~57mm, which is kind of right as you get much smaller core at greater velocity.
Post pen dmg however…
Its the 37mm APDS but like 4x worse lmao, although you do benifit of it being full auto and if you can aim
not sure what you mean.
2a8? Every user nation gets theirs if they are in the game.
Germany, sweden, france each would get 1.
That being said, what can happen like the 2a7V and 2a7HU.
Is that germany receives them in game first, since they are the first users and sweden / france only receive theirs once they received them in real life, like it happend to the 2a7HU.
If the nations arent officialy in the game yet, like the 2a4m can, 2pl. It goes to germany, like it already happend.
Same happend to the M1A1 AIM
Just a bit more context: Poland, Australia and Canada are all official countries in the game as they are country operators.
What they aren’t is defined (sub-)tech tree, thus foreign tech under Polish, Australian and Canadian flags go to the respective manufacturer countries.
eh for all sense and purposes they arent officialy part as a playable nation yet.
Official are only the main nations and subtrees
Well, Gaijin just never defined them as “sub-trees” or “tech trees”, but they are implied “filler nations” as they were never directly named what they are in tt scale, but have their purpose clearly defined.
Even though with the addition of Australian and Canadian Hornets, one might speculate Canada and Australia to become sub-trees for the UK.
officialy stated by Smin multiple times, even after the commonwealth thing still not subtrees.
Vehicles go where they fit best
Aussie/Canadian Hornets want to have a word with you.
Also I never said they are sub-trees, only that they might become sub-trees at one point.
They got it as an addition for air, since there isnt much to add for the future, not the case for ground.
Furthermore they got canada as a premium as well, since they shared models and it was easy.
Uk wont just get every australian / canadian vehicle in the future. The hornets in this case fit the criteria. Air is not line up dependent and affects additions way less then ground would
Right…
looks at SA/Indian sub-trees
Agree, but that’s just usual Gaijin practice that affects all additions, not country-specific ones.
I perfectly know that, but again, it contradicts your previous statement “vehicles go where they fit best”, and that “fit best” is 99% of the time vehicle origin (e.g. America, Germany).
Maybe the UK would benefit from a tank that actually gets proper round and is not crawling to battlefield, you know.
But it is defined by aforementioned “fit best”.
True to most extent, but why did Ram I join the UK tree only? Why not the US as well, there is like only 1 researchable 3.0 vehicle, but somehow the only nation appears to be the UK (even though Ram II was originally in the US tt only)
I also understand that the UK is not getting all commonwealth nations, thus not their vehicles. At that rate, the UK would have more than half of the world as sub-trees, with these sub-trees encompassing all vehicles in the world.
That’s my view at things, at least.
EDIT: I also think that I am getting off-topic in the thread covering Swedish additions, so I’ll stop here.
i am quoting Smin there, fitting can have several ways
yes, cause they canada and australia only have a small industry for indiginous vehicles.
Unique vehicles as seen with 2a4m can as example go to germany.
US already has several F/A 18 variants, the australian and canadian ones arent specialy unique, thats why Uk got them.
UK pretty much gets the scraps, that arent worth adding elsewhere.
Or in the rare example i can name , the australian Redback K21 IFV would go to UK, since korea aint a thing yet.
canadian 2a6 scraps oh wow, there is not more australia or canada could even deliver to begin with.
By far the wrong countries if you look for MBT solutions, 2a6 is becoming old quite fast.
Still other modernised T-90 Bishma version that can be implemented
And the Arjun tank indiginous tank 2a4 from wish.
MBT options are in india that can be implemented
thats the answer, it fit better into Uk , where a line up was already possible
I got a better 1.0 spaa, the machine gun horse wagon.
on a sidenote about gaijin’s cv90, i cant really understand why and how gaijin decided about the armor for the cv90.
if we compare the cv9030 fin and cv9040b, the fin has some addon composite screens, adds a better engine (adds ~100kg) and smaller gun (removes ~500kg), for that it gaijin adds 4.3t, which means that 4.7t are kind of unaccounted for and if you count the ammo the weight decreases it by another ~250kg, but there are still the addition of the composite screens, idk if composite screens the increase the weight adds up to 4.7t
if we compare the cv9030 fin and cv9035dk, the dk has less composite screens, adds spall liners in the hull (adds ~100kg - ~500kg), gives it a bit bigger gun (adds ~60kg) and a better version of the fin’s engine (maybe adds ~100kg), for that it gaijin adds 4.3t, which means that 4t - 3.6t are kind of unaccounted for and if you count the ammo the weight increases it by ~22kg, there are still the composite screen changes, but the increase in weight probably aint adding up to 4t - 3.6t if an increase at all.
if we compare the cv9030 fin and cv9030 Mk4, the mk4 has more composite screens on the hull (2x in the front & 3x on the sides), but take away almost all composite screens on the turret, takes away spall liners (removes ~100kg - ~500kg), gives it spike-LR’s (maybe adds ~150kg for launcher, electronics & ammo), a better version of the fin’s engine (maybe adds ~100kg) and adds hydropneumatic suspension, for that it gaijin adds 9.5t, which means that 9.35t - 9.75t are kind of unaccounted for, and if you count the ammo the weight decreases it by another ~145kg, which seems like a big increase in weight for what it adds / changes, there are still the composite screen changes, but the increase in weight probably isn’t adding up to 9.35t - 9.75t
have i missed something or is gaijin just being wierd?
Okay, so I modeled the penetrator based on the cross section image of the m/95 and it is indeed about 8mm thick. This also gave me the volume of the penetrator, which is about 1.6 cubic centimeters (1.6 cc). Considering tungsten penetrator alloys are around 17 - 18.5 g/cc, that gives it a weight of 28 - 29.6 grams.
Though, there’s only so much accuracy you can get from an image, so I’d give a gram or so in plus/minus to account for any discrepancies. Still, 53-54 mm in pen isn’t too bad.
Finally happened!
They added the quadricolor camo after i bug reported it too!
