It was at 11.3 with the only logical lineup 12.0 to play at.
Not saying they can’t, but where the stinger costs twice as much as an igla,.you’d expect them to be at the very least…equal
That’s an issue with helicopters in general, IR missiles just suck against them which is weird.
You can lock planes at similar ranges as indicated in the stat card, I’ve just locked a plane in test drive from side-aspect at 5.2km with my Stinger.
That’s a tautology, most Rolling Airframe missiles do not rotate at a constant rate, due to moment coupling influencing the roll rate anyway so that kind of distinction can’t really be made since one revolution around the axis isn’t a constant distance or time.
and anyway its not like there is a lack of primary documentation that lists the value(s).
They really aren’t since there are some Nations like Israel (Machbet) and Italy (Sidam Mistral) that don’t have a long range SAM option so are effectively stuck uptiering it for their higher BR lineups.
Why would they need to move up? It won’t functionally make a difference to those below them and those above it easily out range them.
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What do you mean ?
Japan has more 11.3 vehicles (not including Type 81C) than 12.0 ones.
Its simple, the UK missiles are not in yet so we dont see the redic crazy pills of the true NATO MANPADS MADLADS yet.
Blowpipe my beloved, they will mock you until they see the reality and then beg for nerfs, just like in Wargame.
Though for real, if there was an actual conspiracy around it, I assume it would be a bit of a bigger news/easy to figure out. Chances are its simply because as said, different target type/doctrine/training.
and ofc, finally, more MANPADS and long range SAM for people, more AAA for all!
Gimme a rover with either Blowpipes or Javelin and I’d use it at every BR
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Only after the recent BR changes.
And I’m talking with current state of the game in mind. Type 81C is far away from Pantsir in terms of capability, which is pretty much shown in the game.
Then it should be far way in BR and not be placed at a BR where it can only be used at top tier alongside the Pantsir if it’s not remotely equal in comparison.
It’s also not remotely an 11.3 worthy SPAA without guns, without radar, without smoke or basically anything of value.
About 50% of 11.3/11.7 SPAAs probably shouldn’t be higher than about 10.7.
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But they are. Gaijin forgetting to add vehicles to some nations is a problem of a different kind. Stinger slingers are all at the lower BR than Strela. It’s either 0.3 or 0.7 BR difference depending on the platform. This is logical, because Strela is better and this is clearly shown by their BR placement.
Because the missiles themselves would be much better, thus the overall performance of affected vehicles would increase ?
Did the BR of anything equipt with M735 get reduced when the erroneous bug report went though, that impacted performance negatively? No.
Changes can occur without the BR being adjusted. Since having a good spread of SPAA at various BRs is important for lineups, performance can vary significantly.
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Imagine Gaijin actually considering lineup options for once instead of placing vehicles at a dead BR without any options that result in players being forced to take it to a BR where it underperforms and is outclassed.
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Uh… The ZSU-23-4M4 is at 9.3 with igla, the Stormer AD and LAV-AD is 10.0 with stinger.
Despite the fact stinger is barely usable and igla is OP
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That’s just the sad story of most SPAAs, 81C is just one of the affected ones.
Most SPAAs are indeed overtiered considering threats they’ll commonly face. You can be glad that Gaijin acknowledged 81C isn’t on par with other SAM systems and placed it at the same BR as OTOMATIC, which is undeniably a very sad vehicle.
Tbh the only thing that makes igla op is the TVC.
OTOMATIC is a worse 2S38 at this point.
Yeah, but I find the stingers (at least what experience I have in the Lynx with ATAS) will miss 99% of the time. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an igla miss, only be defeated by flares. The difference in performance and BR is kinda insane. Makes you wonder why the Stormer AD is 10.0 and not 9.3.
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