pretty good i wager, its still a 9m motor however, only so much reduce drag can do, the iris-t out pulls it and outranges it, asraam will just outrange it by quite alot. the only real advantage the 9x has is the low smoke motor and the 2 way datalink.
in no way is ef2k aesa worse than f15ge.
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Ah I see, Well Low smoke motor is a pretty good advantage in sim and ground rb though it is not that big of an advantage over IRIS-T or ASRAAM :(
March data it was the second best jet in the game, only behind the FGR4 (which I still think is some wierd MM reason for it to be ahead by such a margin). Just seen April data out, its dropped behind Italian AESA and Rafale, but just barely and is ahead of the German AESA and Su-30SM2. The F-15C GE is actually performing easily on-par with all other 14.7s despite being apparently a “weak” 14.3 according to more than a few US mains.
F-15EX would definetly be superior to current 14.7s without them getting equal missiles (Like giving the Typhoon at least C8s)
I was comparing 260 to meteor. Plus as some explained, if its a counter to pl15, the requirement must be close who are aesa seeker and dual pulse.
i mean the f15 ge is literally the best jet at 14.3 with the only comparable aircraft being nerfed, much worse than 14.7s with the exception of the j15t which would be mediocre even at 14.3 because of the nerfed pl12s and miniscule cm count.
you wont find anybody that here saying the f15ge is bad anymore, i still havent played it much myself though, stock grind is awful on it and i havent been enjoying war thunder much these days, ive played the su30sm2 and f/a18ge a bit, and ive had my fill of russian aircraft, im waiting for the us to get a top tier aircraft now… it has been more than a year without a top tier aircraft.
Maybe they delayed the entire project due to PL-17? (I could be very wrong about this) AIM-260 was supposed to enter service in 2022, same time when PL-17 entered. Since PL-17 is supposed to have more range then PL-15 (Original missile that AIM-260 was supposed to counter), maybe US delayed AIM-260 so that it could match PL-17 instead of PL-15? (Again, my theory could be very wrong)
pl-17 is a different class of missile, aim260 and pl15 are constrained by size and are developed to be main a2a missiles of their respective airforces, pl17 is more specialized like aim174b and r37m.
i found this picture
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Doesn’t aim9x pull more and have more range currently than the iris-t currently?
It does make more sense and that is why I said my theory could be wrong. Size difference between PL-17 and AIM-260 should already invalidate my theory
yeah that just isnt happening
Yep, Invalidates my theory immediately
9X does not go beyond 12km currently, Idk about IRIS-T
afaik china’s successor to the pl15 is the pl-21 which we dont know anything about nor do we know how far in development it is
Iris-t doesn’t go beyond 12km either, and iirc, approaches 12km slower than 9X, I could be wrong
in the timestamp you can see stage separation at around 3:08 - 3:09, the missile then ignited the mk-104 stage which is the only thing the aim-174b will have, you can see it burning until it gets inside a cloud at around 3:42, then the cloud gets thinner in some parts but you can’t see the missile anymore before the target explodes, so the burn time is at least 34 seconds and at most 38 seconds for the conditions in the video
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and my argument is that, at the moment, the F-15C GE is a top tier worthy aircraft for the US and they dont actually need anything new at the moment. The US doesnt have always be the best.
If they got nothing next major update, it wouldnt matter. If they get anything, Like say the F-15EX, then the ball should also move forward for all other nations and not just the US. The priority should really be on Israel and probably China at the moment as they do actually lack top tier worthy aircraft.
Ive seen more than a few claim its the weaker than most 14.3s, and that was within the past few weeks. I think some still believe its weaker than the M-Scan Typhoons
niiice i only had a video showing the mk72 separtion not the full burn
the us has not been the best for 2 years lol, and no the f15c ge wouldnt be 14.7 worthy, its no competition to su30sm2 or ef2k aesa, su30sm2 is comparable, but its better where it matters most, which is better missiles and a much better radar, ef2k aesa has less missiles but much better flight perfomance and the strongest radar in the game, j15t is overtiered and wouldnt be much good even at 14.3
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