What can save American top tier air?

highly doubt india is capable of doing that on their own, also would have major issues with their western partners

Metagame bro. I’m flying into the notch and you’re spinning like a hedgehog trying to counterattack with even f35.

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I’m completely wrong when I’ve read the arguments?

What sources do you have on the AIM-260? We don’t even have reliable sources on the AIM-120D? No, I I don’t assume everything the US has is superior. I think what the US has is good enough for the needs of the US military.

The US has 200+ F15EXs on order. The UK has 100 operational Typhoons. The logistics between the two are entirely different.

The Meteor and AIM-260 are built for different applications. The minimum range of the AIM-260 is to be a generational leap over the current AIM-120, which still has a classified range. It is not likely that the range increase comes from lofting or battery alone. The AIM-260 is a clean sheet design, leveraging advances over the last 30+ years from the launch of the AIM-120. Advances in battery and guidance technology alone will leave more space for fuel. We don’t know the actual dimensions of the AIM-260, only that it will fit in the same space as the AIM-120.

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India be doing anything but finance their 5th gen program 🥀🥀

irst/radar mem trick will allow for f-35 to launch at ±90 degrees, like how you can currently do on rafale

they have bigger issues (aka literally everything developmental wise)

And I can’t wait for “muh Meteor missed within 200 KM, muh ram jet, muh NEZ” but I guess those posts are different.

By that time, the Su-57 will be available, which, in addition to attacking from the notch with 270 degrees radar, will also be able to deflect missiles with electronic warfare. hehehe.

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EW wouldnt even be the funny part as it could get a LDIRCM

I doubt it would have a 100km kinetic NEZ like the Meteor does as Gunjob has posted. AIM-260 could offer a better total nez than Meteor when taking into account both kinetic and chaff/EW/notching though due to its AESA seeker.

Something like this
NEZ

Considering how well the TCS is modeled on the F-14B, I don’t think the AAQ-37 DAS would be any different.

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doesn’t the f-35 get 360 degree irst?

btw meteor and r37, its just new fakours with increased range
Everyone will just fly into the notch the whole game and laugh at your long range attacks.

Perhaps, my thinking for Aim-260’s kinetic NEZ being roughly equal is that I would assume the first stage would be similar ish range to something like a C5, but then it would have the second range to extend that further. Aka dual-pulse built for long range. Assuming the target was within the kinematic range of the first stage alone, then it could use the second stage to make its terminal approach kinematically impossible to defeat. Its travel time though would be much higher in-comparison, probably like 2-3 minutes vs the Meteors 90 seconds for a 100km shot.

But we know so little about the Aim-260 its impossible to really make any educated guestimates

Fakours have worse seekers than the Meteors and R-37s actually would, and Fakours aren’t exactly bad missiles either. They’re just attached to bad platforms right now. Put it on AESA Eurofighters and it would smack a lot of planes down every match.

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Ive gotten enough kills with C5s at 40-50km against targets that just never reacted to the threat to know that Meteor would still get plenty of kills at similar ranges. But the core point of the Meteor in the War Thunder context is that it would have far lower time to target than most other missiles, especially any already in-game, be basically impossible to kinematically defeat at any ranges that you would actually fire at and not require optimal launch conditions to perform well (C5s need to be launched above mach 1.5 to be half decent)

Does the F-14B have one?

It’s got a good chance of being modeled as a targeting pod not a Sensor.

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80km± Kill

But comparing their effectiveness to bots isn’t really a good idea. Any player with any understanding of this game can easily dodge these missiles just like the fakours.

Imo, dual-pulse is a poor man’s technology of ramjet, and that’s reflected in several things. It has its use and is perfectly fine for medium ranges but is no substitute for long-range compared to ramjets.

France is utilizing dual pulse for smaller cheaper medium range missiles like the MICA NG which will be proliferated onto multiple platforms (ships, SAMs, airborne) but then of course with the consortium is putting ramjets into the Meteor, Meteor MLU, and Stratus-RS which are much more expensive than the MICA NG on more limited platforms.

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62km kill is normal