AIM 260 having dual pulse at while being hypersonic is still good, some estimates put the AIM260 at higher ranges than the METEOR. I love this alleged “Cope” that US players have in game just because “Oh EuROPE HAs ThiS TEcH ThAtS bEttEr” its honestly just a skill issue. Some of the most over rated vehicles on this forum are 90% of European vehicles and Russian vehicles. I’ve honestly heard more solid statements from Chinese missile sources than European.
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I wonder where that comes… dreams ?
That exactly why gaijin is not talking us sources seriously.
All missiles in game fall under this, for example the R77-1 is artificially buffed while the AIM120s still are missing HOBL and many other features. The Chinese are the same way, they whined and moaned about Japan getting the VT4 leak and then gaijin made a whole apology letter and then gave them a AH64E they don’t have with false armaments and then to sugar coat it they gave them a M1A2T.
How do you know something of Aim260 who not even in service and is the newest and secret program in present days
Almost like the island of Formosa uses the Abrams and Apache. So what do you want? Both Chinas to be represented, or should we remove Taiwan just to make you happy?
My genuine reaction to whatever just blessed my Eyes and frontal lobe:
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because some of the requirements are known
and their was a diagram showing it with roughly double the engagement range of amraam (so could easily extend to 300+km range excluding 120D3)
These two missiles don’t have the same purposes. Maybe the AIM-260 has crazy battery time that allows it to stay alive longer than the Meteor (hello AIM-120D 2.0), but the Meteor is a heavier ramjet design that has much greater kinetic energy while the AIM-260 is meant to keep the same form factor and replace the AIM-120s as a medium ranged missile. But for anyone to say that the AIM-260 has as much kinetic range as the Meteor is far-fetched as the design of AIM-260 is not meant to take the role of what Meteor offers.
The bigger question is what will be more realistic and useful in Warthunder at medium range scenarios, AIM-260 or Meteor, not which one has longer kinetic ranges (Meteor).
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doesnt make it hypersonic nor does it mean those values were achieved and range is very depended on launch factors plus pure theoretic range doesnt mean it has the same effective range
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I dont think you understand how requirements work
if they werent met then the missile wouldnt be entering service
Also, if it is true that AIM-260 is dual-pulse, that just makes it less likely for it to be hypersonic as well. Dual-pulse designs focus more on average speed over time and terminal maneuverability than missile maximum speed.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it is hypersonic if it’s not dual-pulse though.
There is a big difference is able to reach hypersonic for like 15 sec and sustaining hypersonic all along the flight
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requirements can change (or be only achieved on paper)
also i got this funny thing about the 120 here
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no idea what their definition of effective is but
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yes and no
some requirements can change and others cant
and given the goals of the program I doubt that the range requirement was a soft requirement
and during the same timeframe amraam range was increased (to likely almost 200km against a subsonic target). so if aim260 did not meet or exceed that it would have almost certainly been canceled in favor of buying more amraams (which interestingly it seems like USAF and Navy are planning on stopping buying amraams in the next couple of years)
anyway most of the dudes claims are bollocks
aim-120d is already hypersonic in game if launched at high altitude and speed, why wont aim-260 be as well
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Civilians make estimates, you can look up approximate ranges. Sure there 50/50 accurate but they are all we have to go off of.
Well one maintains hyper sonic for majority of the flight path (AIM260) and the amramm doesnt maintain for the whole flight.
He meant like the meteor which i doubt.
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the MIG-17 could reach mach 1 in a dive doesnt make it supersonic
tho it depends on your definition of supersonic/hypersonic