What can save American top tier air?

all were used quite a bit by the US except for the captured aircraft (which im against). remind me how many RAF squadrons have flown Hornets or F-111C’s?

literally a US fighter going to the correct tree

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so much hypocrisy from them lol

  1. The UK owns and operates both. U.S. getting it bc “muh tests” screams special treatment and ignores reality. Lastly, it’s not likely that we’ll even see it in-game (on the F-35) there is no other designation to differentiate normal vs clipped wing missile, so Meteors probably won’t be added there.

IF it did, then yes, it’s a U.K. (and Italy?) F-35-exclusive because these nations use both.

  1. Ngl, if nations received weapons they rejected irl it’d be even more of a mess, so GL with that logic.

TBH mate, my interest in this convo stopped because you kept shifting goal posts lol.

Point is:

  • Our missile
  • Our jet
  • ???
  • GB/whoever else in Europe (probably just Italy) F-35 gets Meteor, USA make-do’s with its whatever missiles

Gosh… it’s JAS39E and MICAs all over again…

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As yes i knew id forgotten something, dm33 on the stingray and the APDS on the xm800t

Well, if we consider you lads eventually cut the contracts. I am leaning more to not giving it.

But well, in the name of technical compatibility, his take itself has plausibility.

Meanwhile, if you lads really need to get ASRAAM, I reckon there should be at least an update gap should be exist to give it.
Giving AIM-132 in the same update as UK TT would be controversial.
Especially when he called other nations which got US vehicles parasites. :/

I do not fully agree with this idea but if we really need to
There should be a slight delay before giving ASRAAM to the US.

Just like ROC took extra months to get their mirage, or how we took extra months to get canadian hornets.

Two update gap would be fine? (Hornet sting → Tusk Force)

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that is fair, i think the US can wait at least 2 updates or more before any ASRAAM tested US vehicles get them since we will have an alternative

lmao

what was the gap between ah mk2 getting added and it getting JAGM-MRs that havent been exported and it shouldnt be able to use?

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IIRC 1 update, though I may be wrong

nope iirc it had them on launch

how am I shifting goalposts, weapon tested & technical compatibility are both valid for addition. the US has the F-35B and obviously has put Meteor in its F-35B as you can clearly see in pictures.

whatever happened to

wouldnt it be more balanced for the US F-35B to get Meteor as well? the US getting meteor on its F-35B is a problem but UK/IT getting AIM-120D and Meteor isnt?

You are in error, where is this aim-120d in italy, i dont see it

https://www.dsca.mil/Press-Media/Major-Arms-Sales/Article-Display/Article/4217573/italy-advanced-medium-range-air-to-air-missiles

the missile is already integrated onto the F-35 and Italy was approved so it would very likely get it

Right, so you said in game, so what aircraft in the Italian tree is currently equipped with it

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pretty clearly talking about future additions to the game since nothing has the Meteor either

Hmm this isnt very future addition looking to me

Wording is everything

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  1. Ah, is that why Eurofighters/JAS39E don’t get AIM-120D? Or why USSR MiG-29 don’t get AASM HAMMER or Su-27 doesn’t have JDAM? It would seem these are not strict rules when deciding what to add where.

  2. The “US” didn’t, Lockheed did. Keep up

No, because the US also has the F-22.

Most nations that would have 5th gen fighters will only have 1 at most, with some (e.g., the UK; but seeing how procurement in general for customers of the US is going… it’ll be 1 for a while) having 2.

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Meh just add that one new gen missile they’re developing, with made up stats (still make it bad though just for the memes)

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I see nothing wrong with aircraft getting technical compatible weapons.

For example, look at germany. They get weapons they never bought (r-27er/et/t).

Why change that now?

Why make weapons that are compatible with certain aircraft be excluded from other nations that have that same aircraft?

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US F-35s don’t need Meteors. Keep it unique by giving it AIM-260 which should come soon, but that also means that European F-35s don’t get AIM-260s if they integrated Meteors onto it (or are in the process of doing so).

Europe hasn’t actually given an interest in buying AIM-260.

The only export customer so far is Australia.