they are not
those two are not thrust limited
Its only overperforming by .05 at 36,000 feet so its fine.
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doesnt lose much speed in turns too
No idea if its top speed is correct its probably ok.
yeah it was slightly higher for me too but ive heard other planes have something similar
Yes and some (Harrier) are WAY too low.
Harrier gr.1 should do .98 mach at 30,000 feet with 84% throttle
does WT do throttle % the same way the harrier does IRL?
Absolutely not. So far from it its not funny.
Harrier Gr.3 can rate at over 6G and the engine will never exceed like 645-675 degreed C
so 84% IRL is not the same relative amount of power as 84% ingame?
no nor are any of the temperatures equal to their respective values.
84% throttle has the same static thrust output as 95.5% RPM (Maximum thrust rating) on the real jet
Maximum thrust rating on the harrier is equivalent to the dry non-afterburning rating on say the F-15.
can it break mach? or does it just rip itself apart even at altitude
its rated for 1.25
Bob Marston has mentioned that it was very easy to get the Gr.3 to make a sonic boom.
In Belize during that crisis they would wake up the runway by flying super low with cleaned up jets and cracking a sonic boom. Harrier 1 generates this at .98 mach so they where doing that but at like 100 feet altitude.
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so anything past 84% ingame is just pushing the engine to or past its max RPM?
also it seems like the F-15 does overperform at really high altitudes in speed but its top speed is pretty close at 36k and 37k
No they’re air frame limited
They are not.
The harrier 1 actually has no limiting airspeed as its self limiting. Its mach limited
edit i thought you meant harrier my bad
i topped out at 2.26 36,800ft in the F-15C and the IAS didnt even go red
it seems like its overperforming in lower alt but that could be because thicker air + pylon drag IRL has a bigger effect and since pylon drag isnt modeled that would explain it
F-15 is thrust limited yes but not the su-27 and mig-23
Also how has a conversation about the f15 go to the harrier
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I mentioned the harrier is thrust limited.
Gaijin based it of a drag index of like 40
As we said before about the clean performance being used for turns and all since gaijin doesn’t model drag very well.
The harrier in game when clean has the performance of a IRL harrier when at a drag index of 40. This would be like the F-15 when clean having the performance of the IRL one with CFT and 8 Missiles having a top speed of 1.6 vs 2.2