What can save American top tier air?

does WT do throttle % the same way the harrier does IRL?

Absolutely not. So far from it its not funny.

Harrier Gr.3 can rate at over 6G and the engine will never exceed like 645-675 degreed C

so 84% IRL is not the same relative amount of power as 84% ingame?

no nor are any of the temperatures equal to their respective values.

84% throttle has the same static thrust output as 95.5% RPM (Maximum thrust rating) on the real jet

Maximum thrust rating on the harrier is equivalent to the dry non-afterburning rating on say the F-15.

can it break mach? or does it just rip itself apart even at altitude

its rated for 1.25

Bob Marston has mentioned that it was very easy to get the Gr.3 to make a sonic boom.

In Belize during that crisis they would wake up the runway by flying super low with cleaned up jets and cracking a sonic boom. Harrier 1 generates this at .98 mach so they where doing that but at like 100 feet altitude.

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so anything past 84% ingame is just pushing the engine to or past its max RPM?

also it seems like the F-15 does overperform at really high altitudes in speed but its top speed is pretty close at 36k and 37k

Pushing past that would put the engine into its war time rating. Or normal lift dry.

No they’re air frame limited

They are not.

The harrier 1 actually has no limiting airspeed as its self limiting. Its mach limited

edit i thought you meant harrier my bad

i topped out at 2.26 36,800ft in the F-15C and the IAS didnt even go red

it seems like its overperforming in lower alt but that could be because thicker air + pylon drag IRL has a bigger effect and since pylon drag isnt modeled that would explain it

F-15 is thrust limited yes but not the su-27 and mig-23
Also how has a conversation about the f15 go to the harrier

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I mentioned the harrier is thrust limited.

Gaijin based it of a drag index of like 40

As we said before about the clean performance being used for turns and all since gaijin doesn’t model drag very well.

The harrier in game when clean has the performance of a IRL harrier when at a drag index of 40. This would be like the F-15 when clean having the performance of the IRL one with CFT and 8 Missiles having a top speed of 1.6 vs 2.2

good point, should probably stick to F-15

AIM-120 performance matters more than anything else though, i wish there were more sources for the 120C

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Harrier 2 can save American air lol.

there are good reasons why even for how amazing some people say it is, it was only ever acquired because of its VTOL capabilities

You realize that it was deemed more effective than the hornet for real world close air support right?

When, what harrier, and in what way?

The USMC where so amazed by the A that they wanted to scrap all conventional jets completely.

The dumbasses in the DOD assumed the F-18 would be better than the AV-8B and wanted to can the idea. So a massive trial was done F-18 vs AV-8B

Summary, the AV-8B while being smaller, cheaper almost as advanced is able to deliver almost 2X the amount of weapons on target while also being at the battlefield 2X as fast. It also has a better survivability rate. The only thing it lost to the F-18 too was the fighter role as the F-18 had a radar and sparrows. However the Harrier is more than able to hold its own in a dogfight with the F-18.

When we got the AV-8B plus with the radar that short fall was remedied.


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In fact the USMC general liked the harrier so much more that he wanted to scrap the hornet completely to fund the Harrier 2.

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