no we cant, because gaijin only uses clean charts for max speed
because they dont model pylon drag
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There are plenty of planes not modeled that way harrier for example is 1, SU-27 another, MiG-23.
How is su-27 and mig 23 another
Its modeled for 4 missiles carried. In both turns and speed.
So modeling eagle after its clean combat loadout (8 missiles) would be an even better comparative metric.
Not for top speed.
Only turns
Vne for both those planes are 1400 kph and at altitude clean is Mach 2.35
VNE is not thrust limits
Yeah they’re both structurally limited not thrust limited.
So it’s kinda weird comparing those planes to the f15
Cause they’re not thrust limited like the early f15a/c
Something like the e models with 229 aren’t thrust limited
Mate im sorry.
We are testing the 8 missile configuration now. If its overperforming considerably like the A it will be reported.
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No I don’t care if it’s reported or not, I just don’t get the comparison.
What do you mean?
what fuel % is it
and do you leave fuel consumption off?
Comparison of a thrust limited f-15 to non thrust limited su-27/mig-23
They are all thrust limited in top speed.
They all are limited to drag
they are not
those two are not thrust limited
Its only overperforming by .05 at 36,000 feet so its fine.
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doesnt lose much speed in turns too
No idea if its top speed is correct its probably ok.
yeah it was slightly higher for me too but ive heard other planes have something similar
Yes and some (Harrier) are WAY too low.
Harrier gr.1 should do .98 mach at 30,000 feet with 84% throttle