Until those sexy Arexis EFTs enter service
What makes you think Dassault is not upgrading their SPECTRA EW suite ))))))))
Im sure they are but those Swedes are cooking when it comes to electronic warfare .
amraam ain’t gonna stomp nobody
The airframe should be good with all that thrust
actually the greatest camo ive ever seen, got a link to it?
Sure do
It’s for the MSIP but just a quick change and it works on GE too
If they model the TRD then the EFT may well have the upper hand over Rafale in terms of ECM. The TRD would make it much harder for HOJ missiles to hit.
Not necessarily. The French Rafales had tested the Israeli X-Guard towed decoy, and two of them are presented. Doesn’t Eurofighter have only one TRD?
With Malaysian SU-30 getting Kh-38MT, i can see US also getting it. Though only F-16 would be carrying them
Edit: Even other AH-64E got DIRCM and JGAM and some of them did not use them
there is peregrine that supposedly has a tri modal seeker
which likely combines ARH and IIR
while having comparable range to amraam in a much smaller missile, as well as good maneuverability
F35 too
as US F35s were the first to test both it and meteor
canards give you more lift and control over pitch, if your aircraft is fly-by-wire it can be computer controlled and give you control canards that cant counteract stall pitch, that’s partly why the Su-30 in WT can hover for no reason and anything with canards seems to be able to do whatever it wants (aside from the viggen, no FBW there) most modern aircraft find some benefit in canards because they have modern computer control systems.
aim120d would be enough for it not to be worthless
afaik that is a concept, and im pretty sure its something that rtx is pursuing on their own.
The right wingtip pod has two towed decoys (the red things):
The main post of the Rafale thread says the X-Guard is only “technically possible” on F4.1 and newer, which we don’t have in game.
Also Eurofighter’s ARIEL TRD has couple of significant advantages over Rafale’s X-Guard:
- Two TRDs are integrated into the airframe on Eurofighter, the Rafale has to give up one missile pylon for each TRD it wants to carry (so Rafale gets 2 TRDs + 6 missiles and Eurofighter gets 2 TRDs + 10 missiles).
- ARIEL is cleared for deployment over the full flight envelope of Eurofighter (Mach 2 & 9g turns). When X-Guard is deployed you are limited to Mach 1.6 & 7g turns. I expect that Gaijin will attempt to balance TRDs by making them break off if you go too fast or pull too hard.
Plus if we compare general ECM the Eurofighter can carry up to 32 BriteCloud active decoys. I’m not aware of the Rafale having the ability to use those, or other active decoys?
I don’t think they will limit all IR missiles with LOBL. It’s likely all missiles with over the shoulder capabilities will be given at least MADDOG, and those with datalink proper LOAL.
Even if we assume only LOBL, in my opinion, the lackluster gimbal of the MICA isn’t the biggest deal. While it would be detrimental in the 3-7km engagement distance, this can be covered by the EM which does have LOAL, and usually garanties kills in that range if fired properly. Outside that range, and the good AOA of the rafale allow for a quick snap to fire the missile in its gimbal. Inside that range, and :
- ASRAAM would not turn tight enough in a dogfight situation to get a kill with that much gimbal (Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion - #8159 by Macron-Spokesman)
- IRIS-T and AIM9X would still blow the MICA out of the water in turn performances.
It was tested on F3R standard for French ones because the Indians wanted it on their Rafales (they don’t have F4.1 or newer). I’ll have to confer with Ares.
But everything else you said in your post is correct.
Worth noting that CAMM appears to be massively under performing in terms of G-pull there (a 50g missile never pulling more than 20g). I wonder if the person who did that test left the surface-to-air time-to-gain values in there, which would significantly limit how much the missile can pull shortly after launch.


