Yep. As I said literally F-2’s radar (±60 AESA) at 15.0ish. Versus absolute monsters like EFs, su-35/57 etc.
And even if we go by the assumption “oh but they will surely model XXX” then rest assured, the same would apply to aforementioned monsters just as much.
This should’ve been the case since December 2024 with the Rafale Dominance. Gaijin’s refusal to give decompression causes these imbalances. And with the assumed addition of a premium YF-23 I can’t see why they would start here.
They already have a very significant missile advantage.
As a very open advocate for decompression I think you know the answer to that.
So the fight is a stalemate outside pilot error.
it was an RAF source iirc, but I cant find it at the moment, was posted on the forums last week.
Do you know in which Topic it was posted so that i can try to find it?
Wasn’t Block 4 supposed to remedy this?
No, the level of stuff involved with this is too much.
The computer required is about 5x5 feet across and costs some 3.5 million dollars. It sits in a F-550 heavily modified and fitted with EMI shielding (I helped weld this up) the computer itself was installed at nellis. They had airforce reps telling us a bit about the system.
It’s called MUSTANGS built by Nomad GCS if you’re curious.
Right and?
So does the Rafale, Typhoon and Gripen E.
Do you have primary sources stating the F-35 is actually significantly superior to any of those 3? or are you assuming because its american?
Last I heard, they were outfitting the F-35 with British made Britecloud.
That may or may not actually make it to service and havent been fitted yet.
How many individual weapons can it carry though?
and why not just use an F-15E instead if you are deleting the stealth?
Because its america and they need to recoup the stupid amount they spent on it.
Or is it only so cheap because they mass producing them?
Or would you rather have 10 Gripen Es or 8 F-35s?
Though the only reason the F-35 is cheap is because they are building loads. If you built as many Typhoon or Rafales, the cost per unit would be lower.
Exactly. The F-22 doesnt autoamtically win because its an F-22
Yes but when you understand things a bit better than the average us main and you look into the actual capabilities of the thing I’m very glad it on our side lol.
A squadron of F-22s could probably wipe out the entire Russian airforce.
But so could 2 squadrons of eft or Rafale
and cant Stirker II do the same though?
There is every chance the Typhoon will be able to do the same in a few years
Its actually stupid they wont let the UK put Stirker II on the F-35 as its a superior HMD
Though the last I heard, it can only jsut about beat an F-16 in a dogfight.
My overall point is that take away stealth, what is actually left underneath?
The most advanced multirole fighter that has ever existed.
That is also VSTOL capable.
I love it but the Royal navy at this point would have been better off retiring Gr.9 and 7 and upgrading the FA.2 with the Frs.2 wing 408 engine, and giving it ALARM and a Tpod
Would have saved so much money considering we payed so much for F-35 weapons integration that the US still hasn’t finished.
More than enough to annihilate an entire armored column when its loaded with GBU-53/Spice 250 racks.
This question has been asked so many times online as a sort of gotcha against the F-35. And the answer has always been the same. Because you’d end up spending more money. With the F-15E, you need some CAP escort, some SEAD to go along with it, probably some stealth fighters for deep strikes, and so on. So when you’re sending it somewhere where it would face a decent opponent, you need a whole lot of other squadrons coming alongside it and all the maintenance, fuel, etc. It’s expensive and a logistical nightmare.
With only 1 F-35 Squadron, you can do all of these missions progressively, ranging from deep CAS in stealth configuration to radar hunting, to CAP, to heavy CAS once the AA is dead.
Can someone in short tell me If F-22 is better, worse or equal to Rafale and Eurofighter in dogfight?
Better
At equal pilot skill, so much better its one sided.
They can ride the hype train all they want but it’s probably only marginally better.
Certainly much better at low speed. But the eft has monster power and can likely extend in the canted vertical and win.
But why?
What actually puts it so far ahead of everything else?
It gets sensor fusion? So does the all the Euro-deltas
Its get a good HMD? So does the EFT
Its get a good radar? so does the Euro-delta
The only thing really unique for the F-35 is the 360 IRST
The F-35 can tell you the location of every person on the ground it’s that silly.
It’s got very good range on internal fuel alone even the B.
The HMS shows more things a full 360 and the radar is probably equal to the eft:
But isn’t that also true for F-22? It has Thrust to weight ratio of 1.27 at 50% fuel, At least that what i was able to calculate
So more or less than the 18x Brimstone/Spear the Typhoon can carry?
and bar the SEAD, why cant a Euro-delta do the same?
it can fit more A2A weapons at the same time as carrying more A2G weapons than an F-35 in a single role?
Its literally just seems to be massively overhyped to me