It could be the strongest. It literally a dedicated EW plane
doesnt explain the F-15E being claimed to have DEWS
Its very much possible. Its a dedicated EW jet
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EW system on EA-18G are being upgraded from 2021 IIRC so its not old
In that case fair enough, best I could find was that it was from 2008 ish, and couldnt see any info for more modern upgrades, but if it has recieved upgrades then it probably would be stronger, though I wouldnt discount SAABs Arexis on the Gripen E from being too far behind, they have a reputation for their EW systems
- It entered service in 2009.
In terms of fighter jet and not dedicated EW jet it indeed would have one of the best EW system in game if gaijin does not model all EW of different jets same
well idk about that one
Because i have just now seen this thread i want to give some input on it, personally i don’t think anything can save US air that isn’t a fifth gen, and even then 5th gens wouldn’t do all that much to save it. You can have larger maps to utilize longer range weaponry but the US doesn’t have long range weaponry, the AIM-260 is in a terribly rough area and has been in testing for years with support wavering. the AIM-174b is only fielded on the 18E and the middling performance of the hornet drags it down significantly so the 174 doesn’t even get as much range as theorized and loses out on crucial energy.
Honestly i don’t think there is anything that can reasonably save US air short of raptors with 120D’s and 9x block 3, and even then a Eurofighter could just locate it because PIRATE can immediately find it while the AESA can highlight its position and brute force the stealth. Raptor launches a missile? well the Eurofighter can just defend and the raptor has just given up its position, EURODASS can instantly detect the missile and you can defend from multiple kilometers away with more than enough time.
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and the moment the F-22 starts locking the Typhoon, the Typhoon should be able to fire a missile based upon the RWR contact if im not mistaken. (if that gets modeled)
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Honestly yeah, irl USA focused a lot on very long range combat and that wouldn’t matter too much in game
though the Irony is that they’ve had some of the shortest range ARH missiles for a while now :D
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aim120d-3 perfomance is not known
Yup that’s quite funny, though there’s aim-174 and aim-260 soon tm
It might be, but still likely a lot less than Meteor
depends on what figures you take for meteors. ramjet increases Nez but its not much better for outright range than conventional motor missiles. its likely not enough to make up for the stealth on 5th gens(which is not going to be a factor ingame if ARB doesnt change). which as far as im aware no country has integrated meteor on f35s yet, which isnt as big an issue irl but it is ingame.
though imo, NEZ is the important figure. Its one thing to be able to yeet a missile at incredibly long range and it maybe hit the target if the target was either unaware of the threat or failed to take any action, but if they do, its trivial defeat, heck they might even accidental defeat it by simply turning without ever knowing they were fired upon in the first place.
Its another when the missile is fired from long range and the target is totally unable to defeat it kinematically.
Its why Aim-120C5s, despite having such long range in game, are considered pretty trash, because fired beyond the NEZ, they will miss their target quite often without the target even really having to do much, a lot of missiles get wasted early game because players turn cold passively and thus usually end up defeating any very long ranged shots
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you might be right you might be wrong, this is not info we’re privy too, but because of the nature of how classified modern aircraft and weaponry is game balance should take the forefront. the reason aim120c5s suck is because theyre modelled badly
Yeah, but that shouldnt mean that Meteor ends up with a smaller range than Aim-120D just because the Typhoon is a better aircraft, that would be rather unfair. Especially as AIm-120D should already have the HOBS advantage and if we are still stuck with 9Ms, that could be a significant advantage in the in-game context.
Yeah, but I still think that raw max range is one of the least important attributes for these ARHs especially with such tiny maps
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There is a recent Boeing picture of a F-15EX with 16 missiles
The wiring on the inner wing pylon is already there, same for the outer wing pylons.
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Interestingly, the EA-18G doesn’t have internal EW suites like the Eurofighter/Rafale. It also for the longest time did not have AESA jammers until the NGJ pods were delivered in 2023 while Rafale/EFT were using integrated AESA jammers. And if EA-18G players take NGJ pods, they would sacrifice 1-2 AIM174Bs and it can already only take 4 of those in the first place.
And because they’re pods, they seem to have very limited jamming capability above the aircraft where the airframe would block the jammers, and so multipathing jamming F-18s would have a bad day against missiles shot from above.
So in essence, an EW meta would be worse for the Hornets compared to now since it would sacrifice missile loadout, need to be lugged around, and have limited verticality.
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