We need new top tier jets capable of carrying nukes and a nerf to cas spawn points

Indeed!
Also the nuke loadout in IRL doctrine means removing air to air missiles, so even with F-16A there’d be mo AAMs, just the nuke.

IRL they’d be escorted by AAM equipped aircraft until the final approach where the escort aircraft would turn around while the nuke aircraft preps then drops.

Yeah, but tbh F15 would be a better nuke carrier for it right? I’m not too familiar with eastern tech so i can’t say what actually carried it in real life but maybe something like the su34 would be a good nuke carrier for red side

You don’t want them to accelerate too fast.
Incremental jumps I say.
Either way F-16, Mirage 2000, F-4E Phantom, etc are all good options.
Su-34 or Mig-29 [if the Mig is nuke capable].

oh, yeah, phantom would be a pretty balanced if we can’t get an f16.
afaik the mig 29 wasn’t fitted for it although it had the capability. Again, I don’t really know

Even having what we have now would be better if they were air spawned, but I’d prefer an f15 or F16 with nuke and countermeasures being air spawned.

Getting a nuke should be the hardest part. Not the hamstrung plane you get to face eveything against you that has every advantage on you in every way.

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Personally at this point I still think they should remove all forms of cas until they finally make the game more enjoyable lol. Apparently f-35’s can carry nukes btw. EXCLUSIVE: F-35A officially certified to carry nuclear bomb - Breaking Defense

I’ll wait until the new SPAA arrives before going drastic.
Especially since if I don’t want CAS to be OP I drop to 10.7 or lower in BR.

And yes, all American jets are required to carry nukes by law.

True … top tier cas is OP.

Might just be skill issue man. Dropped 22, vast majority being high tier, never once died to enemy planes. I usually run out of time or get shot down by friendlies. Fly extremely low, like tree hugging, and head straight for the battlefield. If you have enough time you can try and come in from a different angle.

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This is just incorrect. They are faster at low altitude, which is how they should be flying as nuke aircraft.

They do have radars though? Not that that even matters as their RWR systems are more than good enough for the job, and even have MAWS for IR threats.

Nuke aircraft don’t have to be able to kill air threats, that isn’t their job, just be survivable enough to reach the battlefield.

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@warthogboy09 You do realize every American fighter since F-4 Phantom are nuclear capable right?

Quick Google shows that a B61 can apparently fit in F-22 weapon bays.

I don’t think Russia was in a condition to tell the US what to do when F-22 was made either

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Exactly. Not sure why he thinks that’s wrong.

My error was mistyping the aircraft I meant to say, and I already forgot what aircraft it was.
I was watching an F-22 at the same time which caused the mistype.

can you please post proof of that law existing?

No, I said all fighter aircraft since F-4 Phantom, including the F-22.
My hands incorrectly typed an aircraft name when thinking of the jet that lost its nuclear capability.

He can’t, because it doesn’t exist.

And he didn’t say anything about fighter aircraft, he said US jets.

Not that that really matters as the only nuclear fighters the US currently has are the F-15E and just recently F-35A. None of the other are currently nuclear capable, period.

Same as not even all US strategic bombers are even nuclear capable anymore, IE B-1B

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Not even super hornets?

No hornets have ever been nuclear capable to the best of my knowledge.

So lets get this straight. Someone spawns the nuke plane without air superiority then cries that they died. Then they cry about CAS being OP, sigggggggggh. Bro this whole thing is getting so so old. The nuke plane is totally fine, I personally would like the nuke to be removed but if it has to stay then i think its totally fine in its current form. I dont want the nuke plane to be uncounterable and think in its current form its fine.

If you dont like CAS this is the wrong game, the only problem that CAS has is that its able to be spawned to fast. Remove scouting reducing plane SP cost, and remove SP gained from doing non critical damage. Its really just that simple, you cant increase the SP cost because then poor players would literally never be able to spawn planes. Planes are fun and part of the game they should be fun to use and be able to be countered. Currently top tier SPAA is very strong for the spawn cost, 900sp plane vrs 80sp SPAA. Crying about range is moronic, no one sits at super range and fires missiles, if you are not a total bot you can shoot down thier missiles very very easily. Quite literally a skill issue in every facet. Stop complaining, spawn spaa, and try using planes yourself and just see how its not free kills.

Yes they do? And even if nobody didn’t, its still bad game design.

But you cant do anything to the plane. You have to watch your team die while you are sitting there doing nothing.

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