War Thunder Updates and Ground Vehicle Additions Since 2022 - An Analysis

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It’s still a Tiger II P that wasn’t needed.

Neither of those offer anything new, and neither of those should have been added.

They’re unique enough for me, but at the end of the day, they’re still Tiger H1s.

Isn’t it basically identical to the Israli M109?

Doesn’t excuse the fact that the t-72M1 is found in 3 different trees.

You are putting way too much emphasis on having a new model in my opinion. Sure, it isn’t technically copy+paste, but the idea is still there.

It just feels really bad when Gaijin goes through the effort of creating a new model for a vehicle that already exists and offers nothing new, when there are a large amount of vehicles that could be added instead. For example, why did Gaijin add leopards to France instead of fixing the leclercs?

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Excuse me ?

Sweden needed a heavy tank that was the first heavy tank that was added.
So yes that was needed,

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As a BP premium, and that doesn’t take away from the fact that it makes a (overtiered due to BR compression) German tank less unique as well.

Sweden also didn’t need a heavy tank, in my opinion.

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1- War Thunder is not about needs, it’s about cool.
2- Kungstiger makes the 6.7 Swede lineup stronger and more unique.
Leopard 2A6 Fin offered a 3rd MBT spawn for the Swede top lineup. USA has 7 free to play spawns, Soviets have 5. Germany has 5.
Tanks sharing the same name doesn’t make them copy-paste.
Nothing is added instead of fixes.
Kungstiger is not over-BRd and isn’t compressed.

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Fair enough, but I’d rather have vehicles go to their parent tree rather than a tree that didn’t create it.

It made the lineup more unqiue and stronger, but it decreased the uniqueness of the Tiger IIs.

It wouldn’t surprise me if fixing domestic vehicles was a lower priority than adding new non-domestic vehicles.

The objectivley better Tiger II H is the same BR, and the II H isn’t 7.0 material in the current meta in my opinion.

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Some vehicles can be premium and copy/paste at the same time eg Leopard 2 PzBtl 123

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It’s describing number of vehicles added per year to the numbers of vehicles added per year (rate of change of the rate of change)

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Ah, so it curves parabolically, thus is graphed exponentially. Sorry, never took calc, so it took a moment to wrap my head around it.

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Spoiler

I listed a disclaimer on what CnP vehicles are in the post, things like machine gun differences or minor visual differences really don’t matter if the vehicle plays the same way.

I didn’t count the American M36B2 for this reason. Same with things like the American M109 and M44.

LWS/LR and a useless APS, it plays identically to the normal T-80U. Regardless, this is the one I’m most inclined to agree that isn’t copy/paste.

Functionally the same as the 3B

Typo, I got it and the NL series confused and forgot to fix it.

Functionally identical to the T-72A in the Russian tree with the armor add on

But is still an M109A1. It gets some structural steel screens and decorative elements, sure.

It’s an M113A1 with a TOW launcher, just a different visual model.

This is another one I was debating including, but chose to considering it’s an S2 (the worst Leclerc variant but that doesn’t matter) with some ERA and a remote machine gun.

It’s a Mk.3D with a non-functional APS, isn’t it?

A Tiger II P without side skirts

T-62 with some machine guns

I agree this one was a mistake to include. It’s a relatively new vehicle so by the time I got to the end of the list of updates I was apparently paying less attention to what vehicles I was putting on.

It has better thermals and a better horizontal traverse. Otherwise it’s just a T-80U.

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@jspene
Entirely new 3D model does not fit the definition of “minor visual difference”. Acknowledge or don’t, either way that reality remains no matter how much your post backsteps.
Functionality doesn’t make copy-paste, otherwise F-15C is copy-paste of Su-27SM. DO NOT reduce copy-paste down to functionality, all you get is dumb comparisons. This statement refutes most of your reply.
Trophy protects from AGM and ground threats.
Tiger IIP with differently mounted exhaust, no skirts, no machine gun period, as well as a new 3D model. Tiger 2P’s 3D model still hasn’t been updated to my knowledge.

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I’ve never said that copy/paste is a bad thing, in some cases it is good. All the original post was was analysis of data.

If you’re referencing the Ra’am Sagol, it doesn’t have a Trophy APS.

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RazerVon >>>AlvisWisla>>>CopyPaste /facepalm

A vehicle copied from another, which does not provide a different gaming experience, is a copy paste vehicle.

When you say that the Finnish and German T-72M1 are different from each other, you lose all credibility dude…

Your assumptions have a basic conceptual flaw. You confuse the aesthetics of a vehicle with its gameplay.

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@el_Argentino
The only T-72M1 that’s a copy-paste of another is the Italian one being copy-paste of the German one.

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read

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copypaste

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Every nation should have at least one of every kind of vehicle for challenges.

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It goes both ways…i could say it is not fair to ask for a vehicle that lot of people don’t want :) (other players complain about prototype and copy-paste)
Not “everyone” wants the same :))))

Actually…“fair” has nothing to do wth it…game can’t please everyone on everything (as forum proves)…so we come to forum say what we like and don’t like…up to devs to decide.
Game has more prototypes than i like, but i still play it and have fun.

If game ever becomes too “unreal” i will probably stop having fun…and go play something else…until then i am happy to play…and ask for the improvements i prefer to see…as we all do.

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That adds up to 118% which basically shouldn’t be possible lol

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If a vehicle is a copy/paste and a premium at the same time, it counts for both categories.

If I had 20 apples, 50 oranges, and 30 footballs I would have 20% apples, 50% oranges, 70% fruits and 30% footballs all at the same time, even if those numbers don’t make 100%

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Could we add a new category, for vehicles that “unique but not new”?
Like T-80UK listed by Wisla, its APS gives it unique gameplay so it cant be though as 100% C&P, but it’s do have a modified model instead of a complete new one.
Though sorry Wisla, L2A5NL plays like any other L2A5s so almost the most community will thought it as a C&P, or even worse, regard it as a C&P which squeezed out production capacity that could have been used for new vehicles. I even heard saw some Chinese main shout the new T-26 model place was reserved for PBL625E…

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