War thunder STILL has not fixed anything about the current f104 lineup

most f104’s are almost impossible to play as fighters right now,
the f104s has worse flight performance and worse missiles than the comparable (of same br) f-4E
along with that there is still no radar gun targeting on this variant of the f104, and the f104s has to sacrifice guns for radar missiles.
the f104asa has the exact same problems, except its at 12.0 where is commonly faces airplanes that are even more powerful. this makes no sense, gaijin please fix this.

this makes up the main (italian) fighter jet line up for rank 7, there is no reason it should be this bad.

Presumably there are people who are doing better in the 104 than you can (or me for that matter!), and who are keeping it’s stats up.

Discussions about efficacy of vehicles have no weight with Gaijin’s BR setting, unless they are backed by the secret performance statistics.

i guess its italian magic thats keeping the stats up, but most of the time the f104 is straight garbage even ignoring the stats and just looking at the game.
maybe it would be bare able if the planes were realistic but as mentioned previously there is no gun targeting.

Not even that, since several other nations have an F-104 that’s screwed over in some way.

Gaijin just needs to fix the BRs of all F-104s. It’s ridiculous how they are able to nerf a plane yet not balance it accordingly.

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All the F-104s are long overdue for a buff rn, except for the ones that are used almost exclusively for base bomibng.

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tried the f104A/f104g on a friends account when i was chilling at his place, I will never fucking touch them ever again. Absolutely miserable planes to fly.

The FM is just… god i just want to forget how BAD the experience was

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