If you word it wrong, don’t accuse me of intentionally misunderstanding you. I just pointed out that most F4 jets are on sale.
You can debate this all day long. But it remains:
It is their business, their work, their product, their sale, their decision.
And it is your or your relatives money, and your decision how to spend it.
You have absolutely no right to demand (claim) anything on sale!
You have every right to be sad that your plans don’t work out, and it is fine to communicate that. But there is absolutely no justification for the hatespeech on these pages.
If you expect other people to work for less (give sale!), then accept the same for yourself (pay regular!)!
And it remains fact, even if you try to review bombard it.
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In some ways, you’re right, but without the players supporting this project, there would be no such holiday as 11 years of the game
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I just don’t think that the people who are most acidic here are the best supporters over the years. Patience is not strong in these. And this game requires patience.
They are not here in worry for the game but for other, more personal reasons. You don’t Ddos for the benefit of the server either.
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And this is where you are wrong, because if it weren’t for us, they wouldn’t exist, if it weren’t for our willingness to spend money on products, they wouldn’t sell them, so if you think in such an anarchic way, every business will fail, you always have to take the consumer into account. The market is made up of people who want to sell something and people who want to buy something, so as consumers we have the right to demand offers that are affordable for us to buy, otherwise no money my friend
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Please tell this joke Apple…
Who is “us” here? The Ddosers, hatespeechers, the “I won’t buy anything if I don’t get my will”?
Or the “others”, who now merrily play their new toys in game. Not so sure really…
In that wording fine, as I said. But to demand something in a form of a claim, no. In other words: You are not entitled to a sale.
And im done for today i need to back to work to get “my money for my toys”
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Lets go personal first, good start.
A fifth of this huge and “most active” thread are six (6) people. (At least one of these six doesn’t even support your view) 170.000 are currently online. Maybe echo chambers have a tendency to lock out reality.
what is ur point u want to prove here … there are 2 guys obviously happy with what offer they got and all the others here are not … there is rly no point of trying to convert them to ur opinion just because u cant they are unhappy with it and u are happy … there is no right or wrong
I don’t want to prove a point. Anyone can go ingame and look for himself if the sale sells or not.
I wouldn’t judge the quality of a restaurant be a discussion of some people at a corner who don’t like the price of the food but more by how crowded it is inside.
So at the corner I see 283 people complaining, while inside I see full seats.
But to reiterate: Their food, their prices, your choice. I am hungry now…
As far as preferences goes, surely, you are right. But with hatespeech, Ddos etc, surely there is a wrong.
The more I read the more I read BS by GJ.
Buzzwords like “celebrate together”, “celebrate this date with all of you”, “dreams come true”
Well, if i’ld would be all of us, then except
“There won’t be any discounts for vehicles released in the “Kings of Battle” and “Sons of Atilla” updates, as well as squadron vehicles (including modifications, talismans, and back-ups).”
We all would be happy, reality is - Not all are happy and as such nothing to celebrate here !!!
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You pass a restaurant and its wall write: ''Half price. Except our best selling meal". You’d be happy thats your choice. I’d be nah anyway. It’s like a joke. We discount everything but not the best of what we offer. I’m not saying Gaijin should discount this or that. The whole entire thing just feel the discount is a joke.
BTW Gaijin is not a restaurant. There is no full. No matter what F-4S is still the top seller on Gaijin store only start selling for half a year. So the truth is they miss a oppotunity to sell more F-4S or so and decide to sell more others that cannot even match a non-discount pack.
I salute you, my friend.
I have specially checked the promotional discounts offered at the back of this article. You do not understand where the players are angry. As you mentioned, leopard 2A4 pack, T-72av turms-T pack,A-10A Thunderbolt (Early) pack and F-5C Pack are on the promotion list in May, but everyone’s goal is the seventh class of aircraft gift bags, especially F4S and mig23ML. This promotion deliberately does not sell some of the best-selling gift bags. This has aroused the anger of players, and many people will not scoff at the vast majority of objections in this post as “crying babies”. They expect gaijin to take actions to unite the community (including this promotion). Some of them will not even come to this place to listen to your explanations, or even know that there is such a place as a forum. Maybe you don’t care about the negative comments on steam. Although I am not a steam game user, I see that you have locked comments on the same steam community posts. As I said in my previous comment post, both players and developers hope that the “11-year-old child” of “War Thunder” can grow up healthily into the next decade or more. Gaijin’s team has to explain these things so hard. Even if you are rational, it looks like a provocation to excited players-“We did the same thing, why didn’t you object at that time?” Is your memory not as good as a goldfish? " (excited players can understand this, but I understand your explanation.) I have no intention of preaching to your team. All I can say is that your team’s communication style still needs practice, how to appease players’ emotions and make improvement measures, instead of “Yes, I see. If you are not interested, please look forward to the next promotion.” The crisis of public opinion that broke out in the summer is caused by the long-term mistrust between your team and the players, who may no longer trust you during the Christmas promotion. They think you are playing with words: “I don’t expect it at all. They are always lying to us” Even in your answer, there is no discount pack"there may be a discount” instead of “there must be a discount”. I used to be a game tester for one of your competitors, and I also know what NDA is, but this situation is not to use NDA to answer “No comment”, because the player simply does not listen to your explanation, neither Stona nor you said, "Dear player，we are sorry for not enough to respond to the expectations of all players, we have listened carefully to your suggestions, and we will take improvement measures before the Christmas promotion. I hope the unhappiness caused by this promotion can be made up for in the next promotion. Thank you for continuing to support the War Thunder and let us do better! "Even with a small change, even this attitude is surprising.
You may be bored with me, but if you don’t properly address the player’s anger and think that the player is unreasonable, then there will be no communication and communication. It is precisely because we love this game that we are so dissatisfied with this promotion. As I said earlier, the purchasing power of a product of 30 euros / $35 is enough for an independent game developer to ensure that he does not have the trouble of eating three meals a day. Although there may be times when prices in some places do not make people eat better. So are we, and we also want to live. I heard someone joke in other relevant communities: “if I buy the money from the war thunder vehicle pack to treat my friends to a big meal, they will be so moved that they even regard the treat person as their temporary second father.” I don’t know if it’s ironic, but I hope you can do something before it can’t be undone.
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F-4S and Mig23ML were not in May sale because they were not older than two patches.
F-4S was added on March and Mig23ML on December.
This planes are not even one year old, just a case of this new planes to not be on recent sales.
Just like new games dont go immediately on sale.
Just have some patience as I said, they will go on sale soon I guess.
On the rest that you said, Im just a player that reports bugs I have no clue about any of the stuff you are telling me because I’m not invloved on that :)
Just talking throught years of experience as a player.
This isn’t true atall.
2022 - Similar to this one, 40 packs on sale.
2021 had bundles for sale, so you had to get 2 prem packs for £55, could not get individual ones.
2020 only had bundles and 50% off for rank 3 and below.
2019 only had bundles.
This year is BETTER than previous years.
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But they do. In this particular case; the SOP is the certain expectation that Gaijin will operate as it has in the past. And the claim that they value discount diversity is still objectively false. This time last year, in the CM’s lackluster non-answer; the very vehicles people were hoping to get this year were available in the anniversary sale last year. And now they’re not for a reason that isn’t true. So what was the actual decision to abandon that?
Again, the defense of “no one in the world tells you that” in regard to what will be on sale is still false. If you want us to “be patient” and wait two more months; then tell us what will be on sale then so we know what to expect. So there’s no confusion, no mixed messaging, no misleading players. Even if that statement was true, why not be different and take the path less taken?
it doesnt matter, the single rule to exclude packs was that there should be older than last 2 or 3 updates, doenst matter how they combined them, solo, bundle etc.
This is what is wrong this year and why everybody is dissapointed.
So, you prefer bundles even if you get each time in the bundel a vehicle you didn’t want, interesting 🤔
I prefer how it is now, take the vehicles I want with discount, and for the one without discount I’ll wait for the next time, world is going on, even if I can’t buy everything I want.
Man you kids should really grow up
As I said I’m not involved in anything about that I have no clue.
But If I had to guess as a player I would say that last year sales were special because it was the 10th anniversary, it was a big date for WT and also that this year sales have changed as I said in May there was the all high tier at 50% which was the first time it happened. Other May sales were way worse.
Overall I do think that this year sales (May, Summer, Birthday) are better than other years, so just wait for christmas I expect them to be good too :)