War Thunder "Firebirds" - Changelog

It might say its an AA, but we all know its not. Similar AAs in other trees are actual AAs. This should correctly be viewed as a support vehicle, as we can see its given APDS. The ONLY good thing on it, is the thermals.
If you’d like to compare similar AAs, lets look at RUS

ZSU-23-4M2 “Shilka-M2” 7.3
4 cannons
4000 Round belt
Stabilizer
Better vertical/horizontal targeting, slightly higher fire rate.

This is an AA.

The wiesel is not.

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Please tell me what other AAs use this cannon…

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I never claimed the Wiesel was meant to be a SPAA.
It’s a scouting vehicle with the ability to defend against low flying airborne threats.

The Shilka on the other side is much larger, much slower and doesn’t get thermals or a LRF.

And the Wiesel, despite it’s way smaller form, thermals and whatnot, is still utterly useless in both air and ground offense, as will the Luchs be.

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Please tell me when scouting vehicles are NOT supposed to be offensive.
Again, doesn’t matter if it has LRF or Thermals, when they do literally nothing to aid the vehicle. If you took both of those off, it would remain the same.

Cant sit in the spawn as an AA because of only +45 vertical targeting. Can’t sit in spawn cause I can’t scout. Can’t go to point since 1 mg bullet kills you. Can’t flank for the same reasons.

Im assuming they added this an an “AA” because “Germany was lacking” when it was added. Now years later, you can finally correct it, as more vehicles/power creep and BR changes have happened.

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Looks like Gaijin forgot to mention that in this update you now have a bomber only air mode :D

Seriously though something is borked in Air Arcade. Play first match fine, join second match and if you have no bombers in your line up you are stuck in the spectators area. Switch nation, play first match fine, second match again bombers only. Looks like someone messed up the spawns :D

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My god the new profile UI is FUGLY…

It seems like gaijin is trying to make the game look more like a mobile game for some reason.

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Oh, I dunno, maybe when they are only armed with a weapon that lacks the firepower to destroy, or even just damage the targets they would face?

I’m sorry that you can’t just zoom around in the Wiesel or Luchs and shred MBTs (or mediums and heavies). Their true potential lies within the combination of small size, great mobility, thermals, LRF and the ability to scout.

Of course you aren’t going to get much out of those features if you don’t work with someone else together, but that doesn’t mean they should be ignored when it comes to BR balancing.

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Anyone getting “authorization server unavailable error”? I was able to log in this morning.

Their true potential lies within the combination of small size, great mobility, thermals, LRF and the ability to scout.

That doesn’t sound like potential, just sounds like making the most of a bad situation and that is still bad.

Luchs is like a Wiesel but even worse.

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I suppose you’ve never tried teaming up with someone using a 155mm howitzer

Why do i need a Luchs for that and not just anything with a drone?

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Mind pointing me towards a vehicle with a scouting drone at 7.3?

Doesn’t have to be 7.3 as howitzers can kill whatever, what does the Luchs do that’s different from any other vehicle with scouting?

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Thermals and a LRF at 7.3 with better mobility than the Wiesel

Wiesel is a smaller profile, and don’t think the Luchs even get LRF, and pretty sure the Wiesel has better mobility.

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Does it not get a LRF? If that is the case then it could go down in BR.

I was under the impression it had one, however without it the thermals really are mostly a gimmick. About the mobility I am certain the Luchs is superior, as it’s higher weight means it isn’t nearly as likely to just fly around, it probably highly depends on the map though.

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I don’t think the Luchs will beat the Wiesel in any mobility test, the only issue is that the WIesel will get hindered by obstacles a lot more because Gaijin does not understand what a ton is.

The Wiesel is still a 3 ton vehicle but Gaijin think that means 30kg, when in reality that’s a small truck that shouldn’t get stuck behind wooden fences.

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Profile page = huge mistake!
Map “improvements” = make me want to quit playing
Ammo boxes = ROFL what were they thinking?

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what with the ammo boxes

Unlimited ammo for SAM for example?