Vympel R-73 'ARCHER' - History, Design, Performance & Discussion

Back in the SRAAM days between 200-400kmh the lower it got the worse it was

IAS 500km/h launch

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/bYBnvVlLjiPy
@Smin1080p_WT what do you think about this?

The R-27ER would have a 9% hit rate? Lmao even

Best case scenario

It was mostly due to lack of datalink establishment, and also usage by monkey model jets going against amraams by incompetent pilots

Has more to do with poor maintenance of the ordnance. They sold the weapons to countries that could not keep them in storage because they did not know how, let alone have the equipment and personnel necessary to keep the equipment working. Missiles, tanks, planes, whatever, they can’t sit on a shelf. They fall apart when not in use.

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Yeah, 9 percent hit rate is too low, aim9e levels. This is also supported by the fact that Russians still use r27, and india in 2019 also purchased r27 from artem

You realize the largest usage of R-27s was in a conflict in which they were in both sides and there were 0 AIM-120s right? LMAO the cope

Do you have a source for this?

“1 r-27 used”
“Largest”

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1:1 hit on a robust aircraft like the MiG-29 and it ended up doing the job anyway. That’s a 100% hit rate in the war they mentioned… Lol

It won’t be because episode 1 doesn’t reflect the rocket’s capabilities

Also btw, where did people even get the “9% hit rate” lmao? I am not able to find any credible source for this claim

There’s plenty of books on the Eritrean war where both sides used r-27s, albeit one had the much inferior mig -29 with 27rs and the other side with su27sk with 27ers and ets. From what I remember, there was around 20-30 ish r-27s launched, with 2 or 3 actually hitting

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That could be a training issue though, like when US pilots in Vietnam were trying to employ Sparrow sub optimally

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Or when they were trying to employ the Falcon series missiles improperly, or without the proper guidance computer that was found on the F-102/106 aircraft. It made using the ordnance very difficult. Likewise, the Su-27 will have an easier time using the weapon.

Whatever the case, the Eritrean war was fought by two groups who did not have any kind of maintenance facilities and with weapons that need to be taken apart and serviced on a weekly basis… and in both cases the ordnance had been sitting on a shelf for years. It is no wonder there might have been issues.

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Except that they were Russian pilots in both sides, again.

The only legitimate problems with the missiles during the Eritrean war were their crap maintenance practices.

Even an Abrams, for example, requires heavy maintenance to remain effective. We can see examples of that in Ukraine