If only russia could cook up double pylons for R-77 for something that isn’t a Flanker’s belly…
That is very unlikely
According to Ruslet it was due to budget reduction in 88/89 year:
https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-vyzbroj/protiletadlove-rs/r-27-aa-10-alamo-/
Does anybody know what this book is and where I can get it?
That book?
Maybe, or maybe this one. Do you have PDF for any of them?
I was looking for R-24T and R-27T seeker info.
No
You won’t find info for IR seekers in book about radio equipment manufacturer book for sure
Oh, didn’t know they only did radar seekers. I just don’t know who manufactured the IR seekers for 24T and 27T, so I was just looking for any book I could find.
NPO Geofizika IIRC
It is a developer of Homing Heads, but not a manufacturer…
I wrote in detail on the old forum, but that was before 2022, I won’t do it now…
The R-23/24 manuals are on the Internet and contain information for the thermal seeker.
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Do they contain info on how its IRCCM functions?
The R-23 and R-24 do not have proper “IRCCM” but are more resistant to flares. Likely just a reduction in FoV.
The R-27T documentation from the Moscow Aviation Institute is much more in depth but does not seem to have much on the actual function of the IRCCM. It covers mostly the guidance, motor, radar seeker, etc. The IR features seem to be more secretive. It is implied the IRCCM of R-27T is much better than what we see and the same goes for the R-73 data.
Dev response is that the game engine cannot handle gateWidth smaller than 0.5 for air to air missile IRCCM currently, there exists stuff with smaller FoV in-game but these are balanced in other means. They essentially stated all IRCCM missiles are nerfed intentionally.
The R-24T definitely has some sort of IRCCM, it is just that it might not necessarily be within the usual use of that term in English. In Russian, IRCCM is usually called noise proofing, where noise can mean what it usually means (radio noise, IR background noise, etc.) and also artificial noise like countermeasures.
“Thermal seeker of the missile is a further modernization of the thermal seeker of R-23, and it differs with a higher front-aspect launch range (including targets with a nominal engine setting)”, decreased minimal launch range in rear-aspect of 500-600 m. Additionally, IR seeker uses a range of countermeasures against organized IR and laser countermeasures, including deployable flares and shimmering (laser pulses ??) from different points." Emphasis mine.
“R-24T self homing missiles with a thermal seeker is used for destroying maneuvering and nonmaneuvering aerial targets during day and night time and in easy and difficult meteorological conditions (outside of clouds) with the presence of natural and organized noise/countermeasures …” Emphasis mine.
Clearly, there is something used to make the missile more resistant to flares specifically and not just noise. However, I don’t know what it is and to what extent it helps.
In the game, the R-24T has the same FoV of 2.6° as the R-23T and has mostly the same seeker parameters (barring increased range), except for it having a slightly lower sensitivity for flares compared to engines, while the R-23T has same sensitivity to both. There does not seem to be any difference in susceptibility to DIRCM (I am assuming this is what they mean by laser).
Do you know what the R-24T seeker FoV is IRL? I did not find anything on that.
Do you know where I could find it, preferably online?
No, you will not be able to get an online copy I’ve only seen pictures from people who have the physical access to the library.
It is likely improved over the R-23 by reducing FoV and enhancing quality or cooling of the imager but I doubt there is much more than that.
Do you know what the FoV is IRL?
I could calculate it like I did for Magic 2 if I had some information such as minimum distance where it is unaffected by flare with X rise time when Y distance from target.
That I do not know where to find.
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