is this R-27R or ER?
Yep R-27R
Why some R-27Rs have small fins in the front and others dont?
In the first picture the R-27R has small fins near the tip and in the last picture there are no fins.
Tranning Mockup
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Thank you.
Can someone explain to me how gaijin claims this thing has IRCCM? If it can be flared at 700 meters might as well say it has none.
1 tap flared as always, not even bothering to flare 2 times :)))))))))
Yet many people cough western players cough claim this thing is overpowered. What the hell is this? Come on gaijin. I dont think soviet engineers were literally braindead.
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The IRCCM is modeled in the form of post-launch FoV reduction just like the R-73 and Magic 2, however the reduction is not as much as the latter missiles… it still has roughly half the FoV of non-IRCCM types.
It is 1.33 degrees I know, but 1 tap flaring at 700 meters basically means in practical terms, it’s like It doesn’t exist.
If the 1.33 is not documented, Maybe gaijin should reduce it to 1.0? R-73 is 0.75 so 1.0 would still be easily flareable . This clearly is garbage tier IRCCM.
It is first generation IRCCM methods employed by the Soviet Union… of course it is not very good. It is realistic according to known documentation.
The only thing that is not modeled is the electronic filtering methods for IRCCM. No missile in-game has this, but it doesn’t do much for us anyway and isn’t really necessary.
Will gaijin be able to add a new version of 27T? Because it doesn’t have a new name, but from what I understand it is still in service with the same name. “R-27T/ET”
I hope su-35 doesn’t get same seeker version of this missile lol
Gaijin can add R-27T with dual band array OS-27T seeker that should have only slightly better IRCCM than we have on R-27T in game should have, but it won’t be historically accurate. Allegedly such R-27T were delivered to China from Ukraine.
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Probably more historically accurate than German Mig-29 getting 27ET/ER it never even had access to, F-16AJ, or Swedish T-80 U /Mi-28A with Ataka missiles
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Su-35 will have R-77 types, why are you worried about R-27T/ET? Regardless, the R-37M and others exist… I am not so sure I will be wasting time with even the improved R-27T variants if that is the case.
I like long range IR missiles. R530E is one of my favourite missiles, even though it is pretty garbage, it can get very good range at high altitude with it’s long burn time
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Well, this is a clear error in the rocket setup. At that distance, she wouldn’t have reacted to Flare
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How do we report this? Can we report this?
It was said a long time ago, the developer ignored it
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Why gaijin why :(
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That is the perfect example of it failing to work
There was an about two 12 foot flames coming out that jet that was never obscured from the seekers view. Does not matter the aspect of the fighter. It should have functioned.
However, one can argue since the missile was fired at such a long range the gate width was reduced as designed, but was still able to see the decoys being so far off.
The fov can only narrow so much, that you may have been too far and the missile did not get in range in time for the irccm to function optimally.
Is that real? I don’t think so.
The R27T/ET should have a better IRCCM capability because it’s designed specifically for range…. It’s definitely a copy paste of the R73 IRCCM and shouldn’t be imo.
it definitely has gotten incrementally worse since the flanker was released. It was actually decent when the SMT came out. But I do not bother with them anymore… they will let you down more often then not.
It’s like Gaijin wants to force use to only use R27ERs. Which is wrong. The R27ER is not a replacement to the regular R or T, it’s just an extended range radar version of it. But in WT, it’s more maneuverable that the R though being much heavier with the same exact control surfaces and takes off much faster off the rail as well.
They nerfed the IRCCM of the T/ET. Additionally the ET does not have the same range as the ER and falls out of sky when it’s motor burns out.
So I only use ERs now. When I used to carry 2x R27Rs for dogfighting, 2x ER for range and speed, 2x ET long range sneak attacks. Maybe when the aim120 comes they will make T/ET as good as they can be. Hopefully.