Since there are no specific parameters available, we can only make rough estimates.
The density of armored steel is given as 7.87 g/cm³.
Hull: The internal clear height is 810 mm. Excluding the structural elements on both sides, the estimated weight of the hull is 3.9 tons. Adding the weight of the 5 mm armor on both sides, the total weight is approximately 4.5 to 5 tons. However, the hull weight should not exceed 8 tons.
Gun: Taking the 105L7A1 as an example, which weighs 1.282 tons, the Chinese 105 mm gun is estimated to weigh around 1.7 tons.
Turret: Using the 90-type autoloader as a reference, which weighs 1.5 tons, the VT5 autoloader is estimated to weigh around 1 ton. The estimated weight of the turret is around 5 tons.
Road wheels and idler wheels: Assuming each weighs 100 kg, the total weight would be around 1.6 tons. Adding the tracks, suspension, and other miscellaneous components, the total weight is estimated to be between 2.5 to 3 tons.
Engine and transmission system: Estimated to weigh between 3 to 4 tons.
Total estimated weight: 18.7 tons.
This seems completely unreasonable.
That is, gaijin created not VT5, but a Chinese version of “Octopus-SD”
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The hull weighs a minimum of 19 tons estimated, and up to and exceeding 22 tons estimated.
The turret has more armor than the TAM’s turret and the TAM’s turret is 10.5 tons, not an estimate, flat out statement.
So the estimated mass of the VT5’s turret would be ~11 tons.
The fact your post calls China and Norinco liars is annoying.
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I don’t know where your theory comes from, it looks like it’s just a hypothetical number for the sake of the result.
Steel density is well known.
The hull is ~15,000kg from steel alone, and another 4 - 7 tons from engine-transmissio, fuel, partitions, wiring, ammo, etc.
And the turret estimate is based on the known-weight of a less armored turret using a similar gun.
What you say is estimated separately.
Plus, that’s just the way it is.
Just out of curiosity, do you keep an eye on the forum round the clock as your job?
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I participate in the forum to gain other peoples’ perspectives, gain information, and share my own perspectives when necessary.
I will also challenge posts’ if I feel they could provide a better statement than the one the post provided.
Good to know you consider science and physics “baseless”.
So, do you think that the electronic equipment of a tank produced in 2017 requires so much weight? After all, the electronic systems of the VT-5 are not based on 1997 technology.
I’ll show how I calculate the body of the car (I’ll take it as a regular cube, which is actually only lighter):
Hull side armor: 7.5m x 2.5m x 15mm x 7.87g/cm3 x 2 = 4.426875t
Front/rear armor: 3.3m x 2.5m x 10mm x 7.87g/cm3 x 2=1.29855t
Hull upper/lower armor: 7.5m x 3.3m x 10mm x 7.87g/cm3 x 2
=3.89565
Frontal additional armor plate: 7.5m x 3.3m 5mm x 7.87g/cm3 / 2 = 0.16231875
All rounded up, the weight of the car without any equipment is: 9.9t
Do you think this is normal?
Number of modifications: 1
Wiring weighs a lot, and you have to transfer power to every system that needs it, the drivers have needs, and the turret crew has needs.
Even if you saved weight in the turret from a modern FCS, it’d be gained back from the modern FCS [heavier sights for gunner + commander, multiple screens, etc]. Ultimately it’d still be closer to TAM’s 10.5 ton turret mass than lighter.
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The hull side has a total thickness of 30mm [15x2], not 10 [5x2].
The front has 15 + the 10 add-on currently in-game.
And the hull top and bottom is a minimum of 10mm each, not 5.
Just interested in TAM.You claim that the weight of the TAM turret is 10.5 tons. Then please show me your source of data.
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Can this be submitted as a bug? Or do I need to talk to a technical moderator?
That’s nowhere near the weight you’re talking about. The recalculation turned out to be 10 tons. Where do your numbers come from?
Oh and that’s purely the steel of the hull itself, not the 7000kg+ suspension and track system, not the 1 ton power pack, not the wiring, partitions [which includes the firewall between the engine and crew], fuel tank mass, ammo carriage mass, gun cleaning equipment and general basic tank maintenance tools in storage, and other accessories that would cause a list 50+ items long.
Oh and fuel mass itself.
The 33 tons is the tank loaded, at least that’s usually what the manufacturers cite as the weight.
I told you about the other figures in the first post, and besides, the calculations are far from 10 tons. The tank could not be a regular cube, and these redundant surpluses were enough to offset the internal equipment.
For the hull of VT5 to be anywhere close to 10 tons, it’d need to have the armor effectiveness and tracks of 2S25: 8mm armor all around, and thin tracks.