VT-5 Deserve a Lower BR

Hi everyone,

I am currently grinding the Chinese tt after having ground and air out both Italy and Russia. Based on my current experience playing the VT-5, I strongly believe it struggles at its current br and needs to be moved down.


image
image
(The lineup I currently have.)

Let me explain why.

First of all, survivability. Due to the most light tanks are not at 11.7 br, I barely found some light tank to compare with it.

Here are Centauro RGOs protection map against 12.7mm gun, front and side views.


And here are VT-5’s


They are both light tanks and at 11.7, I think this explains something already.
And another light tank Booker has a lower br which is 10.7 while it has a better protection compares to VT-5


Sprut at 10.0, has a better protection in front.


Even HSTV has a better protection in front.


Why I use 12.7mm gun for the comparison? Cause the weak area of VT-5 is directly covering the driver.
image

Because the VT-5’s weak spots can be easily penetrated by standard 12.7mm heavy machine guns, a single burst can kill the driver, leaving the tank immobilized or unable to escape. What makes it worse is that due to this vulnerability, enemies (even those with a broken main gun) can just hold down their trigger with a .50 cal, repeatedly killing your replacement drivers the moment they hop in, effectively locking you down and executing you with machine-gun fire. For an 11.7 light tank, this level of vulnerability is completely unacceptable.
image
image
(In this image, the Centauro and the VT-5 destroyed each other’s main guns, and the VT-5 was smoked by 12.7mm and was unable to escape.)

All light tanks above would be the comparable materials I use for this suggestion.

Next, armament.
To be completely fair and objective, the firepower of the VT-5 is acceptable. The 5sautoloader is definitely a strong point, and having slightly lower penetration is usually manageable for a light tank that relies on flanking.

Centauro RGO’s APFSDS vs VT-5’s
image
image

It is reasonable that the Centauro RGO has higher-penetration ammo but a slower fire rate compared to the VT-5; it’s a fair trade-off.

The exact same logic applies to the M10 Booker, 2S25M Sprut, and HSTV-L (though the HSTV-L trades penetration for an even faster fire rate).

image
image
image

Cannon-armed light tanks generally have very similar armament performance anywhere from 10.7 to 12.0. Because of this, the VT-5’s decent armament does not justify keeping it locked at an 11.7 BR, especially when its survivability is so far behind. Moving it to a lower BR would not break the game’s balance.

And the last one, mobility.
VT-5’s mobility is not really bad.
(From up to down, VT-5, Centauro RGO, HSTV, 2S25M and Booker’s max speed status)
image
image
image
image
image

Since I only have VT-5 and Centauro RGO, I was only able to test the acceleration of their two vehicles. (I am still grinding the US tt as well, but I don’t get Booker yet.)
I got 15s to reach 60km/h while playing as Centauro and 17s for playing as VT-5, both are running in “reference”, their acceleration abilities is similar. If someone has tested any of the other vehicles, please leave your test results in the comment section.

Because its survivability is extremely weak while its other traits only meet the standard of a light tank, moving the VT-5 down to 11.3 or even 11.0 would allow it to perform its intended role without breaking the balance of the game.

Put it in 11.3 is a best choice imo.

[Should VT-5 have a lower br?]
  • Yes
  • No (If you have passion to explain why, leave your comment.)
0 voters
1 Like

Sure

1 Like

11.0

1 Like

no wonder youre struggling. thats not a lineup with the MBT 2000 missing.

youre also stock grinding. most vehicles feel crappy stock.

Everything is crappy to play with a level 5 crew too.

play some low tier, get those crew levels up where its less vital to have a maxxed slot expert crew

1 Like

I acknowlegde that my line up is not complete yet and my crew level is too low. But can you give some reasons that why VT-5 should be at 11.7?

Also, Khalid is basically a MBT-2000.

Its fast and agile with a good dart and ATGM.

also has a 5 second autoloader. you can have level 1 crew and still outreload everyone that isnt in a challenger or abrams with max crewslot and ace training. The armour is decent enough for autocanon to be a non threat too, beyond that from 10.7 armour means nothing so its fine for the BR really.

11.7 just sucks overall tbh

1 Like

I think I have mentioned the dart in my topic, it actually has a decent autoloader, and a lower pen compared to other light tank except HSTV, I suppose it is a fair trade-off. And for ATGM, ATGM often take time to fly, which already gives the enemy more time to destroy VT-5 player, and vehicles equipped with LWS can release smoke. Plus at 11.0+ BR, the number of vehicles equipped with APS is significantly higher, making ATGMs highly unreliable in the current top-tier.

The mobility I have mentioned in my topic as well, I am not saying that it is not powerful in mobility.
And the main issue is VT-5’s front could be penetrated by a 12.7mm gun. Not even a 30mm.

Just asking, did you grind and play VT-5?

This is VT-5’s front that facing 30mm APFSDS btw


And heres Bookers

HSTVL is undertiered, should be top tier.

thats why its kept for rare use. maybe a heli got too close to the battlefield or theres an SPAA unprotected.

no. Dont play china, I see no reason to play USSR tanks twice for a small number of unique vehicles im not intrested in.

youre showing booker at 500m, the ascod 2 hull does shrug off 30mm russian APDS tho.

youre also hardly seeing pumas, kf41s or boxers so this isnt a major concern when theres BMPTs still being spammed across high tiers