Vought XF5U-1 - The Flying Pancake

Lmao real

I hope it has chocolate chips on it 😁

better not be a event or premium

I’m honestly quite astonished that it’s not in the game already

+1

The day this pancake is in WT I buy the freedom fighter for grind it

./. 500 from immersion perspective
+1 from an aircraft enthusiast perspective.

Why?

Just another (US) dead end postwar plahe that will ending up polluting WW 2 lobbies with actual WW 2 planes - if you check the performance it will end up somewhere between 5.7 and 6.0 with 0.50 cals (6.3 - 6.7 with 20mm) in Air RB as the plane lacks firepower with 0.50 cals or is too slow for a 7.0 BR. On top of that the average US pilot lacks the skill to use his aircraft properly, so the effect we see with A6M5s and Re 2005s (=highly overtiered) won’t happen.

Gaijin stated countless times that won’t add stuff which can be described as “Il-2 Sturmovik 1946” with stuff like the Focke Wulff Triebfluegel to the game - but thanks to the BR setting policies we have already a hell of USSR and US postwar aircraft at WW 2 BRs (like Yak-3U, I-225, La 9 or F2G, AD-2/4, F-82) accompanied by very late planes like P-51 D-30/K/H-5, F8Fs or prime examples like the Tigercat & the Hornet - they all saw no combat and scored not a single kill in WW 2.

But - from an enthusiast’s perspective the plane should be added. First because it is a very interesting concept and second: Air RB is already Air AB+ - a plain fantasy shooter without any immersion - an additional plane like this won’t hurt.

+1 from me!

Because it is an interesting aircraft, and with how often US aircraft are copy-pasted into other trees it can do with a few prototype aircraft in the main tech tree, especially fascinating examples such as the XF5U, and it isn’t as though there aren’t a bunch of aircraft ingame that never saw combat as it is. Moreover it isn’t a paper aircraft, it was built to the point where it could’ve flown.

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One of the biggest +1s from me for a WWII prop plane

Whilst i see and acknowledge your points, i am not sure if you got mine.

It is not an issue of being a (rather interesting) prototype or having not seen combat. WT simply sets BRs on factors like pilot performance on average and other parameters like burst mass which allows that in this case a 1947 prototype would fight 1944 service aircraft like the Spit Mk 22 or the Ta 152 H-1 whilst being at a much lower BR.

I mean if play wt for WW 2 prop feeling i expect a somehow realistic combat experience, so if i would use this suggested aircraft from 1947 i would expect fighting Luftwaffe or RAF jets.

If you are fine with this fantasy setup, there is nothing wrong with that. But this does not mean that we have the same understanding what we like or dislike.

Have a good one!

I feel that’s a bit of a silly reason when Gaijin never has cared all that much about when a vehicle was introduced, only where it would fit BR wise.

S-199 is post-war, yet is at 3.3

Almost all of Sweden’s early to mid tier vehicles are post war modifications.

Early German and Japanese jets routinely face cold-war jets.

ME 163s and Ki-200s are solidly in the cold war jet bracket.

The Skyraiders were introduced a year after the war ended, yet regularly face WW2 aircraft.

The Wyvern is a post war aircraft that routinely faces WW2 aircraft.

F-82 was introduced in 1946.

The Strikemaster is a modern aircraft at 6.3.

And likely a number more.

While I do understand the issue of not wanting ‘fantasy’ battles, I feel that ship has long since sailed in being something Gaijin considers, if they ever did in the first place, and it isn’t as though the XF5U-1 is THAT much of a timetraveler. The prototype was completed only a couple years after WW2’s end, and it’s not a modern trainer or a COIN aircraft, and would probably be in the late prop fighter bracket along with most of the other late/post war prop aircraft, maybe even the early jet br range, so it’s not like it would be somewhere out of place either.

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I want funny pancake

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World of Warplanes looking thing

I surely wonder why my suggestion suddenly got bumped today.

Clueless

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one can only hope it’s this they were talking about
(i would of course rather have literally anything italian but ts cool as hell :P)

It literally has a built in staircase
+1

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I’ve seen some people claiming the XF5U was never armed. While that’s true, the aircraft was intended to have provisions for six M2 Browning machine guns, at least officially.

The aircraft had provisions for the armament consisting of six M2 Browning machine guns, three stacked on each side of the cockpit, with 400 rounds per gun. Two hardpoints under the aircraft could each accommodate a 1,000-lb bomb. However, the armament was not installed on the prototype.

Here’s a diagram for reference.

And let’s not forget the XP-50 Skyrocket. If memory serves, it was never armed or even fitted with weapons before it crashed after a turbosupercharger explosion during the testing, yet it still made it into War Thunder with its planned armament. So, precedent already exists for adding unarmed prototypes with documented weapon plans.

Here’s a photo showing the XF5U mockup with six gunports.

Even better, the XF5U-1 Illustrated Assembly Breakdown, a primary source, clearly shows the gunports in the assembly stage.

Now, the XF5U-1 ACP data sheet from June 1944 officially confirms the planned armament of six .50-cal machine guns. I also have at least two independent secondary sources stating that while six .50-cals were the first planned configuration, four 20 mm cannons were later considered. Unfortunately, no source mentions the ammunition count, but given standard US configurations, 200 rounds per 20 mm cannon is a reasonable assumption when studying every US airplane in USAAF and USN service during 1944-1946.

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You don’t have to worry about guns, if a plane had provisions for them or even detailed plans, they’ll be added, it’s been this way ever since the game launched, every country has a plane like this (eg. XP-55, Me-264, Yak-141, Kikka, one of the British Meteors and Swifts etc.)

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Oh, of course. I thought it was worth sharing information to remind everyone else that it’s still valid for future addition.

+1 for mini pekka plane

Rumor has it, that his may be the next event!