Yeah, getting in game in sim battles can take a while. Even more so when you got 3 nations aggainst 6.
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Still no change … *sigh
Again its probably not going to change as Sweden is the primary nation and were neutral, if Finland were the Primary tree it would definitely have been changed.
So you want to remove them from sims?
Did i even say that, if you would please quote where i said those exact words. Otherwise i ask you dont try to take my words out of context.
Well neutral =/= they were allies. Neutral is neutral. If thats your reason you want them removed from sims. But thats silly and unreasonable.
Only solid reason to choose their side in simulators is their subtree that actually fought in ww2. And that chooses Axis side.
Again you’re interpreting my comment as me wanting them removed which its not
Both should be Axis. Sweden kept pleasing Germany most of the time while Finland… well, you know what happens there.
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Sweden also supplied Finish fight aggainst soviets.
Yes, Sweden was shitting itself at a possible Soviet advance through Scandinavia, so although its position during the Winter War was neutral, they supplied weapons and volunteers to Finland.
Edit: Sweden was non-belligerant, different from neutral.
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Well there is no other way to interpret them.
If you say Sweden should in your opinion out value any form of Finish presence in ww2 “Because they are the main tree and finland is just subtree” then you want them to be removed from sims because Sweden alone has not enough reason to be Axis even less so Allies in ww2 era.
Unless you are trying to say gaijin is not going to do anything about it. “because gaijin is lazy” or something which is no a reason not to do anything about it. So dont talk about it unless you have an actuall reason.
I am stating my own reason for why gaijin hasn’t changed them, i believe that because Sweden is the main tree and Finland is a subtree that is why they haven’t been put on Axis. I never said whether they should or shouldn’t, i simply explained what i believe is gaijins reason.
They should probably go with germany, but it will be kinda weird
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Well “probably” … there are literally finish tanks fighting finish tank rn. Since there are finish tanks in german tree and swedish tree. Current state is just absurd.
There was also the Swedish SS, Sweden traded with Germany, Norway also had SS soldiers (occupied or not, they still had soldiers that willingly conscripted).
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The situation is so confusing lol, but i dont complain, i like the current state since you can test alternative history
Very true. Even tho Norway has no ww2 era stuff in game to my knowlage it is present laiter in the tree. Which means the swedish tree is more like Scandinavian tree - which in ww2 was under axis control and influence or was allied to axis in finnish case or neutrally helping axis and Finland aggainst soviets in swedish case.
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Well ww2 era should not be “alternative history” like cold war era “what if they fought”. Side should be as they were in ww2.
Especially with how Sweden’s military stuff is just “Sweden and Germany did a group project”, which is how Sweden got a jet engine, swept wing design was founded by German and Swedish designers, and their tanks was just German stuff but Nordic.
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There was no Swedish SS division, not sure where you get that from. And it’s not exactly strange that Sweden traded with Germany considering that she was entirely surrounded by occupied territories and subjected to a partial blockade. Germany was effectively in full control of Swedish trade.
If you read the history and memoirs of Swedish politicians and the people in general who lived through those times it becomes clear that there was no love lost between Nazi Germany and Sweden.
Edit: BTW, the closest Sweden ever got to joining the war was on the side of the allies towards the very end, because there were a lot of German troops still occupying Norway and nobody was sure if they’d actually surrender. The plan was for the Swedish army force the issue, but the war finally ended before the it became necessary.
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