Vote: Shouldnt Finland-Sweden tree be on axis side in ww2 era ground simulator battles?

Though it does have finland as a subtree, which was part of the axis.

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Was Finland really part of the axis? I thought, they never wanted to be associated with them, but they were at war with the SU and received support from the axis.

That being said, Sweden definitely belongs on the axis side in WWII scenarios.

Finland was starving and needed food, germany was the only nation willing to sell them food so they joined an alliance.

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Maybe at first in Winter war. Laiter in contiunation war it was a lot more than just support from Axis (25 June 1941 – 19 September 1944) Finland was fully part of operation Barbarossa and then fought alongside germany and axis powers till late 1944.

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The question “why do Swedish-Finns play on the same team as Russians” under the news about the new finnish KV is deleted by the moderator )))

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Is it? I belive its still there: [Development] KV-1 m1942 “Klimi”: The Reclaimed Giant - #102 by 侍KAMIKAZE侍
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Why would they delete it?

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I find this proposal very interesting, but on the one hand it is simply difficult to realise, Finnish tanks under the Swedish flag would then compete against Swedish tanks.

On the other hand, what about Vichy France? Have you ever thought about adding them to Team Germany? Or Italy to the USA because they changed sides on 13 October 1943?

What about the GDR NVA tanks like T-72M1 and BMP-1? Can they also play together with the Soviets and Chinese? Is all this actually possible in the simulator? Simply no because everything is based on teams and not on historical accuracy, and there are too few simulator players compared to the other modes because for Gaijin this is a slow seller. I haven’t seen the same attention for simulator players as there is for arcade or realistic for years

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Those are not the same. Vichy France did not really fight anyone even when allies came in. While part of italy switched sides in 1943 the north of Italy was still axis until April 1945. Its again like comparing Winter war + Contiunation war to little skirmish of Lapand war. Majority of war Italy was axis and so was Finland. It would not make sense to add late war Italy on allied side anyway since at that br they get moustly after war stuff anyway. + I suggested Finland to be on axis only till 3rd rank. It just makes 0 sense for it to be on side with Soviet union that they fought aggainst majority of second world war.

It also doesn’t really make sense for a German(finnish) KV-1B to fight finland but gaijin already said that the KV-1B will always be exclusive to germany so i mean might as well throw finland on the axis so they arent technically fighting themselves

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Kinda just repeats what I said but yeah I agree.

Still no change sigh*
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Or there should be vehicle based match making, solving this prob and solving cold war germany etc.
Separate nato and eastern and whoever brings tanks from both in one line up cannot enter to matchmake

Lets solve ww2 first since thats backed by actuall wars. Eeastern german never fought the western one only was prepared to do so.

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Шведы вместе с финнами должны быть на стороне немцев, как это и было во время WWII.

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да 👍, (needed translate) but yes.

The guy you replied to made sense though? Nations need to be split up if you want real sim battles, that’s true even in ww2.

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How so?

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China

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Italy

Direct example:

Air sim has the same issue.

I was flying Yak-1s last night and I saw a Bf109. Germany is on my side. I am fighting america and britain. Friend, right? Moments later, I was dead. Why? American Bf109. Later I saw a teammate cry for help. Bf109 on bf109 action. Had no idea which was which until the camo finally rendered and it wasnt just silhouettes.

Tonight I flew the bf109-F4. I saw a B-25j. I flew to intercept. Blue marker showed up - china.

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Well china might be devided before and after ww2. Not in ww2 as they only fought japanese. (i mean realistically speaking they had no tanks what so ever in ww2 so…)

And italy still was axis majority of war simmlar tho finland.

Yes, but they both have POST-WAR equipment that makes IFF very annoying/impossible.

Like, it’a s similar situation as Sweden (ignoring Finnish subtree) - it’s post-war stuff but BR-wise it falls into WW2