Vote: Shouldnt Finland-Sweden tree be on axis side in ww2 era ground simulator battles?

What game are you even playing because WT is not historical ,its mixed up madness and has been for years.

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At least simulators should have the sides somewhat correct. Theres no fixing realistics or arcades but simulators could get better with this simple fix.

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I would even like to split China and Germany making them available for the East and the West simultaneoisly with different vehicles being available for each side.

That way GDR T-72s, Mig-21s and Mi-24s would be on the pact side, where they belong.
They might need the addition of some more vehicles though.

I’m sure this is possible. Sim works based on a list of allowed vehicles already. So all they would need to do would be put Germany on both teams but differentiate between the vehicles that are allowed for selection.

However, I don’t see this happening any time soon.

Well idk how would this cold war work tho as conflict here is just hypothetical and I highly doubt if a war broke out at the time east germans would like fighting west germans. Also its complicated how would the match itself work if someone have vehicles from both sides in his lineup. Also there are not many east germany vehicles to my knowlage. I usally play ww2 era which can be substantiated by an actuall conflict so the sides are obvious.

Also not sure why split china. As they really only fought aggainst each other before ww2 (tho there were no tanks or planes) and right after ww2 (usally with lend lease vehicles). In ww2 they fought japan so I would keep them on allied side. In cold war theres again issue of not many democratic chinese/taiwanese vehicles in the tree to make for opposing lineup.

So I dont think spliting tree is really possible at the moment. But Finland/sweden tree needs to change for the ww2 era.

In Sim the split would actually be easy.

Add the nation to both sides.

Make East German/Chinese vehicles available on the pact side

Make West German/Taiwanese vehicles available on the Nato side

The trees need to be more fleshed out though.

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Yeah that would work in air sim battles where you have just 1 plane used. Tho in tanks when you have whole lineup and there are not many Taiwanaese or East german to make lineup.

hell yeah sweden vs ussr

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In setups WW2 TSB, three nations face off against seven. Moving Sweden to the Axis will improve the balance and reduce queues for Allies.
p.s. Sweden was as “neutral” then as it is now.

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Though it does have finland as a subtree, which was part of the axis.

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Was Finland really part of the axis? I thought, they never wanted to be associated with them, but they were at war with the SU and received support from the axis.

That being said, Sweden definitely belongs on the axis side in WWII scenarios.

Finland was starving and needed food, germany was the only nation willing to sell them food so they joined an alliance.

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Of course there was! She participated in the siege of Leningrad.

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Maybe at first in Winter war. Laiter in contiunation war it was a lot more than just support from Axis (25 June 1941 – 19 September 1944) Finland was fully part of operation Barbarossa and then fought alongside germany and axis powers till late 1944.

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The question “why do Swedish-Finns play on the same team as Russians” under the news about the new finnish KV is deleted by the moderator )))

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Is it? I belive its still there: [Development] KV-1 m1942 “Klimi”: The Reclaimed Giant - #102 by 侍KAMIKAZE侍
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Why would they delete it?

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I find this proposal very interesting, but on the one hand it is simply difficult to realise, Finnish tanks under the Swedish flag would then compete against Swedish tanks.

On the other hand, what about Vichy France? Have you ever thought about adding them to Team Germany? Or Italy to the USA because they changed sides on 13 October 1943?

What about the GDR NVA tanks like T-72M1 and BMP-1? Can they also play together with the Soviets and Chinese? Is all this actually possible in the simulator? Simply no because everything is based on teams and not on historical accuracy, and there are too few simulator players compared to the other modes because for Gaijin this is a slow seller. I haven’t seen the same attention for simulator players as there is for arcade or realistic for years

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Those are not the same. Vichy France did not really fight anyone even when allies came in. While part of italy switched sides in 1943 the north of Italy was still axis until April 1945. Its again like comparing Winter war + Contiunation war to little skirmish of Lapand war. Majority of war Italy was axis and so was Finland. It would not make sense to add late war Italy on allied side anyway since at that br they get moustly after war stuff anyway. + I suggested Finland to be on axis only till 3rd rank. It just makes 0 sense for it to be on side with Soviet union that they fought aggainst majority of second world war.

It also doesn’t really make sense for a German(finnish) KV-1B to fight finland but gaijin already said that the KV-1B will always be exclusive to germany so i mean might as well throw finland on the axis so they arent technically fighting themselves

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Kinda just repeats what I said but yeah I agree.