i will do it, thanks mate
You may copy my post and mention me or link it to save some time. 7,5/5,5 cm Pak 41 KwK 41 or Waffe 0725
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I tried to post in the suggestions tab, but I couldn’t.
If you are a native English speaker, could you do this?
I mean i can do one, but not copy yours thats pagarism.
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I agree. I think it would be a good “training wheels” tiger so people aren’t jumping straight from a panzer III
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The pz3 ausf. L with the squeeze bore got passed to developers. If this gets added chances are better for this to get added
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I confess that I’m already tired of this suggestion.
I’ve been fighting for him on the forum since 2015
Several issues.
1, extremely weak cupola, that will be penned by literally everything. Get ready to be 1shotted by Swedish 40mm SAP.
2, Horrible turret design: 80mm mantlet, that is 80mm (75mm effective if it is cast), with 80mm, likely RHA frame. Most 3.3 and higher will just LOLpen it even at distance.
You can’t ange it, because of the shit angled side-front plate (unknown thickness, but even if it is 80mm, it would still prevent any angling.
3, Bad hull. 100mm at 4.0 and higher for a heavy tank is laughable, if we take the horrible turret into account. This is not the only issue. You can angle a KV-1 very well, since the front is 100mm, and the side is 75mm (instead of 60 here), or even 100mm at some places.
4, likely bad mobility. It has 0.1 HP/t less, that the Tiger H1. While the max speed looks good, it will likely stuggle to reach it even in arcade, with almost double engine power.
Add the 4.16 km/h reverse speed, and get a functionally useless tank.
The gun is going to be good, no matter if it is a medium or the long 75mm.
Basically, it would be just inferior to a KV-1B, or even to a normal KV-1 L-11. I’d say BR 4.3 at max, but more likely 4.0.
No, i think its rolled into shape like the Pz IIIs gun mantlet.
I’m going to laugh my ass off since aside from the cupola and the forward speed you just described the M6A1.
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I think your assessment was extremely pessimistic
Give me one, and I’ll prove to you that it can be 5.0
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+1
It seems like 4.7 or 5.0 material with KwK 40, 5.0 with the 75mm squeezers, and 4.3 with a LeFH 18 (assuming that’s the 105 L28 referenced). Any way, a great addition for TT. We need more WWII vehicles, and the gap between the Pz III M and Tiger H1 is probably the largest in the German tree.
I personally think the 105mm derp gun assault tank in particular would be super fun to play. That’s a vehicle type that’s super lacking in WT at the moment, and this, the M45, KV-9, and Churchill VII AVRE are some of my most anticipated WWII vehicles.
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Yeah, agreed, the M6A1 comparison is very apt. I’d go 4.7 or 5.0 to start with and see how it does, then put it higher or lower depending on how it performs, or leave it as is of course.
Quoting every word. Nothing to add, except that I’m confident we’ll see all of them. If it exists, it’ll come to the game eventually, it’s a question of when, not if.
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I just think its funny he’s talking about 100mm of hull armor with sloping sides you can’t angle as utterly execrable for a heavy above 4.0 when one of those exists at 4.7 (and that’s Arcade, its even worse in RB at 5.0), especially since the M6A1 has functionally no side armor and so it couldn’t angle even if those slopes didn’t exist. Add in mediocre turret armor and the M7 that is outpenned by German guns several BR’s lower and you have a joke of a heavy tank, but hey, you have a 37mm and a stabilizer.
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I got that, trust me, and I agree. I’m not that type of German main 😁
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really underselling the stabilizer and the additional gun. There is a reason it’s higher than the kv1s. It’s still a great tank in my opinion. Despite that the squeeze bore has high pen but really bad post pen aswell and bad angle modifier because it’s apcr. Shouldn’t be higher than 4.3 for that fact
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I think the point isn’t so much that the M6A1 is bad or good, but that the VK wouldn’t really perform that differently at a similar BR
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It would because the gun is much worse. Just need to play the sdkfz 221 with the squeeze bore. This gun should do a little bit more post pen damage but not much more. Plus the stabilizer and 50.cal the M6A1 has. Armor may be similar but all other aspects are not
The only german guns that noticeably outpen it at a lower BR are those found on the Dicker Max, Sturer Emil, and Pz.IV/70(A), all of which are tank destroyers.
Compared to the medium pressure KwK 40, both L48 and L43, the 76 mm M7 and M1 are simply superior.
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The M6 has much better armor on the turret, not just by raw thickness, but also because it is a volumetric hell.
The M6 also has a much beter gun, than both the medium and the long 75mm on the german tanks. It also has 3 .50 cal MGs, and a coaxial 37mm gun, that is suprisingly effective.
It’s lower side armor is also very trollish, and it can even eat a soviet 152mm APHE sometimes.
It also has 10 deg of gun depression, and a larger crew that is more spaced out.
No. They are realistic. Also, maybe consider that it is a german tank, and the average germany player is… well, not the brightest. You could make the Tiger a 2.0 tank, and they still would not get a positive K/D.
The SQ gun would be a complete disaster. Gaijin would likely model it as APCR. Even if they make it solidshot, the damage would be piss poor, and it likely would have some ~7s aced reload, making it literally useless.
Just compare it to the VK at 5.0. This is slower, has much worse armor, a worse gun. This is nowhere near 5.0 worthy. Not even with the long 75mm.
Lol what?! ~70mm AP pen with 115mm HEAT pen? Yeah, surely 4.3 worthy. It will struggle to pen most enemies with AP, and will do little to no damage with HEAT.
Just comapre it to the M4A3 105, it is faster, has more HEAT pen, and has more armor. The only thing it lacks is an AP shell, but at 4.3, you would mostly use HEAT anyway…
The hull issue with the VK is the smaller part. The wort part is the awful turret, that will be LOLpenned even at 3.0-3.3 by mediums/lights, even at distance, and a cupola, that is LOLpenned at reserve tier by a few nations. And you know, it is the part you have to expose to shoot…
You don’t need to. Just go hulldown. Also it’s hull is also very troll because of the many overlapping plates and various angles.
It will not be penned by US 75mm, and soviet 76mm guns, unless you hit some very specific, and small parts. But even if you hit them, they are likely to just injure the crew behind them, instead of fully penning.
Pen does not really matter. Germna guns have more pen, but the HE filler is very low. You can center mass shoot an M6, and kill only the hull crew. And then it shoots back, and gets all your crew…
Nice demonstration of the “Conqueror-syndrome”.
Funny how it is actually a very capable tank, but okay…
Exactly.