VK 36.01 (H) The Tiger I father

Yes, i know. But again, the issue is, that in game APCR is absolutely trash. It is also “not APCR”, because after the squeeze bore shell leaves the barrel, it looks like a solidshot, those “sticking out fins” are going to be pressed to the “core”. So it is more aerodynamic, than APCR. It is like APDS.

But if you want to play with ta tank, that is
a, has no armor
b, slow
c, can’t do anything, because it uses a uesless ammo

Then this tank is going to be your favourite.

The other reason is taht, knowing Gaijin, they will go for the APCR anyway.

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I don’t see the problem? Armor seems to be good and this tank can be balanced with the right br. If the gun is that bad then put it at 4.3 where the armor is great

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Still does not fixes the problem of the shell.

Also, even at 4.3 that armor is not going to be good

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Not all APCR is of arrowhead design. Just as an example, here’s the armor piercing ammunition for the 90 mm M3 cannon, M304 APCR, M82 APCBC and T33 APBC, not in that order.

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90 mm M3 Ammunition

You can probably guess which is which, but the point is that the APCR here is not of arrowhead design.

Even some German APCR rounds, such as the ones on the Kwk42 and 43 (and even the Kwk40 from what I can tell), aren’t of arrowhead design and externally just look like normal AP rounds.

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Pzgr4042

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It still does not change the fact that it would be unplayable.

Good luck penetrating a T-34, or even a Sherman with APCR.
Even if it pens, the gamage is just awful.

At least advocate for APDS. That thing at least has less speed drop, and has better angle performance, so you will be able to pen angled armor…

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We don’t need to argue about APCR ammo, just request it to be launched with the good old KwK40

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With that gun, it would be just a slower Panzer 4. It would be better that wth other gun, but again, just play a Panzer 4. it is faster, better armor, and the same gun.

Slower ? He is sure ?
It is faster and better armored than the PzIV.
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And once again I will repeat!
We already have a 5.0 with 100mm of armor using this gun, and it performs well.
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Imagine a Tiger I engine, carrying 10 tons less.
This is a VK3601

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I am in a different discussion about the VK 3001, and i was mistaken, i though i was on that forum.

Yes, you are right.

However, i would like to oint out, that you are talking about a KV-1. That KV-1 is just better armored, than the Tiger 1.

Vith the VK’s armor, the problem is the very weak side, turret, and cupola armor. You can angle a Tiger, but you just can’t angle this VK in way to make the front effective, while the side being effective too.
80mm turret front, with a Panther style mantlet is just bad. It is flat, and the mantlet is effective 70-75mm, since it is probably cast armor, and not a black hole mess, like on the Tiger.
50mm cupola? Yes, soviet 45mm go brrrrrrrrrr.

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Maybe this works fine in 4.7 do you think?

i would say 4.3. It would be a good 4.3, and a usable 4.7

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+1 gib!!!

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I’m not holding my breath, but if the devs took the time to model APCNR correctly I’d be pleasantly surprised. It’d add some spice to the German tech tree instead of your typical ‘APCBC-HE go brrrr’

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Why dont you copy this over to the real suggestion part?

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i will do it, thanks mate

You may copy my post and mention me or link it to save some time. 7,5/5,5 cm Pak 41 KwK 41 or Waffe 0725

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I tried to post in the suggestions tab, but I couldn’t.
If you are a native English speaker, could you do this?

I mean i can do one, but not copy yours thats pagarism.

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I agree. I think it would be a good “training wheels” tiger so people aren’t jumping straight from a panzer III

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The pz3 ausf. L with the squeeze bore got passed to developers. If this gets added chances are better for this to get added