Oh the grammar nazi appeared! Jawohl Hans!
I am also not russian, so a weak attempt, and a humiliating fail from you.
Stop with the bad faith insults.
He claimed ammo storage doesn’t improve safety when he claimed everyone that believes ammo storage improves safety lives in an alternate world, he was wrong.
I’m interested to know what you consider “educated” in war thunder terms.
Here is @O_HOgameplay’s thunderskill page, if anyone else wants a laugh:
https://thunderskill.com/en/stat/O_HOgameplay/vehicles/r
The irony of you accusing others of confirmation bias. Please show me one source of tanks having worse accuracy in arcade compared to realistic. No, you being a bad player is not a source, unfortunately.
Yeah sure when I get a screenshot of that. I don’t save every single instance after all.
No. Breach is a module. Secondary spall is applied to gun mask, a damage model. It was applied because it would spall close to nothing on Leopard 2 A5 and later, as well as STRV 122. Leopard 2 A4 doesnt have it, so the spalling through gun mask is next to not existing
“No”, “Nu uh”, “Nope”.
Remove that modifier, I don’t care. It’s a thing of the past and an unreasonable artificial nerf. Optionally be vocal about every vehicle receiving similar treatment, so ammunition detonation chance on BVMs going from 0.15 to 1.0, good deal!
I absolutely adore your strawmans.
There are no strawmans, stop with the fallacy fallacies.
Either he called my correct legitimate position wrong & was himself wrong, or he strawmanned me & was still wrong. You pick.
That Russian tanks have a worse survival rate for their crew than western tanks? I didn’t think it was a particularly hard point to decipher. It’s also not really something you can question, unless you think you know better than military strategists the world over.
Not a grammar nazi, just trying to help you improve your English.
I wouldn’t accuse anyone else of humiliating themselves when you don’t even know the difference between confirmation and conformation.
Somehow his statement doesn’t include the part in the brackets…
So now you’re even putting words in people’s mouths?
Kekw.
I am correct though, its Gun mask DM making spall, not the breach module.
It was nerf to breach getting little to no spalling when tanks were introduced, if thats removed, it would mean theres no guaranteed way to kill a Leopard 2 if only turret is exposed.
But detonation chance on it is similar to others.
He put words in his own mouth when he claimed that people that think Abrams crews are safer due to ammo storage live in an alternate realtiy.
The breach is part of gun mask’s damage model.
It was nerf to breach getting little to no spalling when tanks were introduced, if thats removed, it would mean theres no guaranteed way to kill a Leopard 2 if only turret is exposed.
Cool, so exactly as it’s supposed to be? Exactly why it was designed like that? Well if Russian tanks can be bulkheads that “work as intended”, so should the protective modules on the Leopard 2. It’s fair, no?
But detonation chance on it is similar to others.
And here we go, you haven’t read anything I said about this.
Show it Razer, prove to me that you can actually do it.
You realise that It was meant to be an example OUTSIDE of this game? No? You don’t realise that? I thought so.
Explain me what is laughable on that?
OH YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH, let’s just pull stats from a mode i played in 2014 with 20 fps, and never touched since.
Look, i can do this with your stas as well:
https://thunderskill.com/en/stat/SlowHandClap/vehicles/s
This was extremely dishonest from you dude.
so you agree that Russian tanks in War Thunder have overtuned survivability, especially compared to the current survivability of NATO tanks? Yes or no, please.
I don’t even know where to begin with that…
I mean I could outline in excruciating detail what a colossal muppet you’ve made yourself to be over a few short sentences of (badly) typed English. However I won’t do that.
Instead I’ll put you in the same category as the other Krembots. Amusing for the random stuff you punch out onto the forums but not worth engaging with.
Don’t bother responding.
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If you don’t understand how things work within the game, I have even less faith you have a clue about things in the real world.
What is laughable is that you are talking about tanks in game that you haven’t even used. How can you judge Russian Bias when you haven’t even gotten past rank 6 USSR? The fact that you’re an arcade player is just the cherry on top.
If the only retort you can come up with is “grammar nazi” then you should just accept defeat and move on.
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Can i see your proof on that? Literally any breach in game doesnt spall but you claim this one does.
Addon armour on that area was put to make penetration there less likely. Not to delete spalling.
0.15 on BVM and 0.15 on Leopard 2, difference? Yes Abrams has 0.2 but all its ammo is safe in blowout panels.
Except… No? Like, we need some statistics for that. And no, videos arent helping that much. Because… You know… You need some research, that includes tonnes of material. We cant say anything about crew survival rate. The only thing we can talk about is ammo vulnerability, because it can be prooved by simple logic (No separated stowage from crew compartment=more vulnerability). Or we will stuck with another myths like “Tiger myth” and “Endless Sherman explosions”
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Show what? Abrams ammo storage improves the safety of crews.
That’s a fact.
@CyrusJackson
In War Thunder:
T–72 & T-90 have identical spalling as all other RHA tanks.
T-80s have identical spalling as all other HHRA tanks.
All T-series tanks have the ammo cook rate of 0.15 as all other tanks excluding Challenger & Abrams whose chance is 0.5.
So no, their survivability is not overtuned as all the features that determine survivability are identical to other tanks.