Physically the 10,5 couldn’t fit in the Tiger II’s turret and be operatable iirc
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I saw plans but don’t think any partial prototype materialised
I think these are the plans
Thanks for the confirmation
what do you mean my Csaba doesn’t get it’s 14 inch auloaded naval cannon with full stailizers!, this is tyranny!
Devs said multiple times for years now vehicles strated but not finished nonmatter how complete and even completed paper designs if needed will be considered in naval where gaps are evident.
These ships, though untealisticly optimum compared to most historians thoughts on how bad they were designed, meet this standard.
Tiger 105 and panther were removed vecause they are physically impossible AND because they were paper designs. The standard for ground andnair is must have a prototype built. The 105 and panther 2 literally could not fit the guns inside those turrets, let alone the crew, ammo, radio etc. Be able to reload and if fired the breach would blow out the rear of the turret.
amazing, another person that didn’t actually bother to read what was said. scroll up to the top, read the spot that says EDIT. this is no longer about the boats. as for the Tiger 105, yes the way it was modeled in game is fictional, agreed, but if you actually read what I said, it was that it was a tiger hull, the turret was only ever a design on paper that got canned. as for the panther, I literally said it should have been removed. Next time read first respond second.
I believe that that’s the only document yeah, at least that I’m aware of. the idea was just to upgun the tiger, and one designer (Krupp IIRC) suggested the 105. they made that drawing and it was a sort of “we’ll figure out how to fit it later” but never got that far. not sure where gijian got the idea for the ranger finder though?
I think naval gets a pass
those giant hunks of metal are a lot harder to pump out a prototype of, makes sense they can follow different rules.
Have they ever removed naval vehicles like they have ground vehicles? Does anyone know?
I have not played long enough to know, but was the panther II a tech tree tank? What year did it come out in game?
Nah, no boats have been removed but that’s because they follow different rules as I’ve been told. As for the Panther II, it was a tech tree vehicle, it was add in the closed ground beta iirc
False equivalency.
Modern jets and tanks are part of natural progression.
Also true
No i read it and i responded because i was staying on topic which is a forum rule and just because you guys had gone off topic doesnt mean incouldnt address it.
I responded because this kind of discussion or topic pops up on the weekly basis, so listing the reasons clearly might help prevent even just one person bringingnit up again.
They made the promise to not dive into that
but look they broke it, you call that “natural progression” I call that a bunch of lies
First off, the boat portion was the initial focus but I was also discussing the game wide application of design vehicles. when the first four people said boats got treated differently, I changed the topic to the air and ground inconstancy as that was still part of it, as such changed the title and added an edit for newcomers.
Second, that won’t stop other people from bringing this up. contrary to what you seem to believe, most players don’t live in the forms, thus never see these posts. Gijian never says boats are treated different in any official manner. that lives only in forms and rare comments, which most of us don’t engage with, partially due to people like you, who get snarky with people for trying to get information.
If you read the opening text, including the edit, and read any of the discussion, and that was all you had to say, than you had nothing to add and could have simply not said anything.
The devs have stated in 2 developer question and answers 1 may have been an interview but not limited to forum discussions that ships have their own rules as i mentioned. So with that said this is a thread created on the forum, being read by people on the forum, beingnconteibuted to by people on the forum so to try and say itndoesnt matter because not everyone uses the forum has no value here.
If I recall the hull was built but not the turret. somebody later just dropped a regular panther turret on it to make a museum exhibit.
gaijin making anything and saying fuck it we ball
their sources for stuff? it came to them in a dream
Wouldn’t the hull make it applicable for gajins rules? I know that the current one is inaccurate, but shouldn’t be replaceable by the partially finished hull?
See, I didn’t know about that being mentioned in the Q&A, but what’s crazy, is nobody bothered to mention that. instead, I get some people being helpful and adding to the conversation, and then a bunch of people like you just resaying the same thing while being snarky because they want to stroke their ego. I love that you still evaded the fact that what you said had already been agreed upon and moved on from, and that we were discussing a different point that was still part of the main discussion. what were you saying about “has no value”? put down your ego, and respond to people interacting with the forms with less toxicity, that’s how you get more people to not say the same thing, by making the forms less shitty to interact with. Not by acting better than people. Thankfully, a good few people in this discussion have actually been both helpful and insightful, learn from them maybe.
anyway this is now way off topic. DM me if you want, though I probably won’t respond since I don’t check back here often if ever.
well their current stance for ground, though a bit shaky, was that a full metal prototype must exist. the panther II as it appears in game didn’t exist in that configuration. iirc, the “Panther II” was mostly a testbed, so didn’t have an official configuration.