Again, not a competition, im sure Russia is competent, but even 4 times as many launches is nothing huge in the grand scheme.
My only source is oryx confirmed kills by lmur which you can easily find. Thats a billion times more reliable than lost armour, which has been caught apreading bad information multiple times and actively uses slurs to refer to ukranians.
They’ve been using them the whole conflict, so a “few” is wild to say imo.
Lol. Latest oryx data for lmur the end of 2022. You must be absolutely sure that there were no launches after 2022.
The russians fired ‘few’ missiles, the ukrainians lost ‘few’ soldiers. The whole point of oryx.
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old good data is better than new bad data.
this is not relevant to the argument so dont go there.
Apparently it’s some kind of illness related to ignoring reality and wanting to live in the past. Sorry, but I can’t help you.
they can technically get the north korean Bulsae-4, as there are reports that they have use it in combat in ukraine
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Looks like there is finally a Russian option
A ground based LMUR
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ngl that thing looks like it would suck
If they give it back it’s high loft mode, it combined with its good flight surfaces should be pretty peak.
it shouldnt get high loft if no one else gets it, but thats besides the point, im talking the vehicle itself
Kornet em is mmw, only really seen used on bumerang and kurgantes though
Kornet-EM is not MMW, it has a laser mode that gives it a form of F&F but it’s not true F&F.
Even if it didn’t it would probably still be one of the best ground based F&F.
The bar is in hell considering how gimped spikes are, and I disagree really it’s a large truck at least other spike slingers have an autocannon
I think it is active radar (not sure if it’s MMW or GMTI or something) but the seeker is fairly short range, it uses SAL to que it into the area where it auto acquires targets.
I think the issue with Russian F&F surface to surface missiles, at least the short range ones that would be on the front line is that the Russians decided that at the ranges that they would be used at the time to target was low enough that the massive extra cost of an F&F seeker isn’t worth it.
Dude why develope a system that has a 10km range when you can develope fiber optic tech that can fly 40km? Not to mention balistic objects flying at mach 5 or more. These fnf missiles like spike, bike, mike work in the middle east. Yes they are usefull but there are other things way more important than them.
They’re both SACLOS, it has no fire and forget.
My dumb arse read Kornet as Khrizantema for some reason, so I was talking about a completely different missile, a complete failure of reading comprehension on my part.
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Oh yeah Khrizy can be guided that way, I’m still waiting for them to add the Radar pod for the Mi-28NM
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Because you don’t have the same capability of hitting a target of opportunity with a drone than you have with a missile, a drone currently is a gamble, the reason Russia hasn’t developed a compact fire and forget missile is cause they can’t for one reason or another. Drones are good but they can’t replace the atgm yet, something like the kornet sure, it was already outdated, but modern atgms are still much better at actually destroying tanks and other better protected afvs.