??? You are calling Baden good,when in fact its bad, just like Strasbourg is bad. And Germany is in huge need of actual 7.0 BB, Tirpitz or Bismarck are long overdue. Just like Italy is in need of Roma or Vittorio Veneto.
How hell it is possible to be so biased 🤣
It’s not obvious that France need 7.0 more? Picture above are not clear enought? Five 7.0 (even “bad”) isn’t better than 0??? So pleaaaase stop complaining, there is no point to debate. I proved that the 38cm can actually did some damage, unlike French’ BB -Or at least- they can did it better
Germany enjoy Sharnhorst for a long time, when French navy suffered for a long time now. Maybe German are in a bad shape compared to USA or Russia, I really don’t know, but France is N°1 in need of 7.0.
I can understand that german player want more stuff, but there is no comparison here.
In this case, people need a lil bit of objectivity 😒
Edit : report it again I want a moderator to check it…
Bismarck and Soyuz sounds intensify
Germany is also waiting for few more years than France, as it have navy for much longer so it needs the new stuff before France even had naval.
You deserve your pseudonym.
The strongest ship in game that most nations still can barely scratch the paint of?
bait used to be believable
Its a weak BB hull with just cruiser sized guns. Its the weakest of all 7.0 BB.
Scharnhorst is the Strongest 7.0 BB in game by quite a margin. Most nations are still trying to get ships that can actually fight it.
Since 40cm guns are soon pretty much 7.0 standard for most naval tech trees, Scharn’s 28cm guns are way off.
Doesnt matter. Scharnhorsts guns are more than enough to deal meaningful damage to any other top tier BB and has both a decent RoF and Accuracy but even 16" guns from ships like Rodney cant pen Scharnhorsts armour most of the time. Hopefully with the massive increase in accuracy we are getting, it might finally be possible to aim for the microscopic weakspot Scharnhorst has and we can finally counter her,
But for the last 2 or 3 years. Scharnhorst has been and has remained the meta ship. The top dog. The most powerful ship in the game, and the one that is widely considered to be the ship that ruined top tier naval balance.
We are still awaiting ships of equal spec, like HMS King George V.
Iowa class all the way
I think a warhead may be the only way to reliably pen a Scarnhorst from the way I have heard people talk about its armor
Nah, just give Britain’s light cruisers N2N radars and then flood the map with thick fog. Belfast easily beats Scharnhorst.
Also HMS Duke of York (or any other KGV-class) should be a fairly decent counter.
Nah, we need Gerald R Ford class aircraft carriers
Maybe with a new mechanic Sharn horse will become less annoying, though it seems everything will be less survivable.
Nah, by the sounds of the rebalance on that mechanic. It wont make a huge amount of difference. But atl least with some semblence of our IRL accuracy we can hit the weak spots reliably
The slow speed of the Swordfish causing them to be less vulnerable to Bismark is mostly a myth - not entirely, but ther are many other factors at least as important:
the 10.5cm AA guns had major physical problems - the forward ones had arcs of fire limited by cranes, the aft ones had unstabilised gun directors, the ship was manoeuvring hard and also rolling and pitching, there were scattered rain squalls hampering visibility, some of the flak positions were badly exposed to the elements and only suitable for fair weather shooting (eg see No Swordfish shot down by Bismarck - Naval History Forums).
Most of these were fixed on Tirpitz, Scharnhorst and Gneisenau or not applicable when they were in combat
The Swordfish took lots of hits from smaller shells (37 and 20mm) with the first damage having been inflicted at 4 miles (The Story of the Torpedoing of the Bismarck) .
5 aircraft were damaged - as noted 1 of them had 187 holes in it - but mostly in fabric skinning and the crew were only lightly wounded
Sounds like severe skill issue if you think that’s the weakest 7.0.
So, War Thunder’s naval battleship tech trees seem almost done, right? Gaijin’s early 2024 QA said they’d add tons of battleships this year. Japan’s still missing the modernized Nagato-class and Yamato, the U.S. needs North Carolina, South Dakota, and Iowa-class ships, Britain’s lacking King George V and Lion-class, the Soviets don’t have Sovetsky Soyuz or Stalingrad, and France is waiting on Richelieu. A lot of these ships already have models and stats in the mobile version, and the PC files hint at HD battleship assets. With all that, could the naval battleship trees wrap up by 2026? Feels possible, but who knows—Gaijin’s pacing is always a wild card.