you directly replied to this statement in your post
Unless your blind?
No speed, no armor, no reload, no thermal vision, no ERA, no 12.7 MGs, no smoke. It is juzt a funny tank not more
My only mistake was to emphasize the extra words in the quote. But I didn’t say anything about engine or transmissions in MY post
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this, so much this people just dont understand that armor is constantly getting lighter but tougher all the time. Hell I have 2 sets of armor for my vests for the shooting range, ones older ceramic lvl3a and my newest set is lvl4 and it weighs the same. Who says the same evolution in tank armor couldnt happen (hint it already has)
T80 chassis is one of the fastest on the block.
10 second reload for a round that lolpens 11.7 hulls with ease is a tradeoff from the original 7.1 seconds, and you’re a 10.3 machine.
I premiumed the thing specifically to grind USSR with T72M2 Moderna (spaded and premiumed), the T72AV TURMS, and the T80UD, and the PT-76-57.
I’m just about to unlock the T80BVM in less than 2 months of grinding from rank 4. That’s how good the USSR line-up at 10.3 is. And I still kept the 292 at 11.7 as a back-up.
Object 292 is an armored tank destroyer with a turret.
Effectively an M10 Wolverine of its era. Or an armored PTZ89.
Abrams’ turret ring was only reported 7 months ago, and it’s a lot of data to confirm, model, and make sure works with the existing game.
If not, they need to wait for an engine upgrade.
Said bug report:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hn6WHPVB7r3K
No, the game made this happen, not them.
The game was made without manual backup systems in mind. The game doesn’t even have stabilizer speed, nor APU functionality despite having APU tanks for a decade [Panzer IV].
Entirely new features require new code.
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7 months and counting, after 5 years. Is it going to be another 7 months before implementation? How long to code back-ups for the hydraulics? They could at least give us a progress update. Leaving it “on read” as a suggestion leaves alot to be desired.
Edit: Also, every Abrams tanker was monitoring the turret ring shenanigans from the first time they got lolpenned by a Tunguska.
You’re overly generalizing. Heavy NERA/composite armor has proved to be extremely useful in the conflict that shall not be named, we’ve videos of Leopard 2s shrugging of both frontal and aspect hits from ATGMs (one of them even took the Kornet to the turret face, twice, and then just drove off). Against drones neither composite nor ERA really work. ERA has also proven to not be great as providing wide arc protection (insert the infamous T-90M gif here). Most tanks simply can’t afford to really armour all their critical points to such a level that ATGMs or KEP would no longer be an issue, and drones nowdays will happily aim for point that can’t be armoured at all (the engine, for one).
No armour is better than worse than the other here, the fact is simply, that warfare has evolved beyond the point where making use of the “all-or-nothing” armour scheme that MBTs are known for is no longer as potent as it was ~20 years ago. Which is why most if not all major tank producers are currently busy working on clean sheet designs that remove the need for over-armouring of future tanks, hence the T-14, the Leopard 2 ARC, Leclerc Evolution, etc. All of them remove the need for the turret to be heavily armoured, all move the crew to the hull where protecting them is easier and makes armouring of the vehicle much simpler (more armour can be concentrated over a smaller area…).
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Dunno, I’m not a programmer in this context. All I know is it’s a universal feature of all tanks, and needs to exist.
And exist as a first ever in these games.
There’s also videos of such vehicles being shot repeatedly in the side, and only detonating upon a 3rd or 4th strike.
Also, you must’ve never played any high tier Russian MBT if you seriously believe that their survivability isn’t terrible.
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Source?
I know that the SEP v3 features suspension improvements. I also know for certain that that variant features turret and hull armour improvements, but I haven’t seen mention of the SEP v2 receiving either.
I’m pretty certain the TIGER program was going to happen regardless of weight increases, the powerpack of the M1 was in need of optimization, durability and reliability improvements.
If you have a source that says this program took place only because the base armour was specifically upgraded to such a degree, that the engine could no longer cope with the weight, feel free to share it.
Also, what is your source for the horsepower increase? And what should be the correct value now?
Technically the turret side armour should be improved starting with the SEP.
This improvement focussed around increasing the protection against shaped charge threats. It’s not massively important in War Thunder, but I’ve bug reported it regardless.
If you believe further protection increases are missing, share sources that back up that argument.
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american entitled post
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and there is me
I Main Everything
I don’t care for K/D, i just play the game for unlocking and adding to my collection
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General Grievous, you’re shorter than I expected.
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Muh the Russian armor is bad, nerf the ariete.
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Yesterday I played one match with T-90M (can’t afford more, otherwise I will end up researching the last mods and wasting the bonuses on no vehicles, bust wait for BVM.2023 xD) and it was an amazing feel hahah
I was shot like 15 times and didn’t even lose a crew member. Half the shots didn’t penetrate the armor, and the other half didn’t deal any significant damage.
Even after several penetrations, the crew is not even yellow.
I dominated the entire West/A-zone side of the map by myself. Captured the zone A, then started taking fire from everywhere and just returning fire and destroying everyone.
A completely different world compared to Mr.one/two-hit-death-Abrams.
@AlvisWisla so after refreshing the T-90M experience, I will have to change my opinion; it IS the goat xD
The spall liners do not only protect the interior, but also turn the fuel tanks into external ones, therefore avoiding fuel explosion deaths.
As you can see on the screenshot, the right fuel tank was hit and detonated- but thanks to the spall liners, it dealt zero damage at all.
It’s a shame I won’t be able to play it again till September, I REALLY like this tank hahah.
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The ERA works so good in the T90M, you can bounce alot of shots and even if you get penned it only damage or kill one crew.
Also the side armor thats pretty overpowered and eats shells.
Russian mains trying to convince people that Russia isn’t good is like sneed saying that the Abrams is second best tank in the game, both statements are braindead.
The side armor on the T80BVM and T90M is suspicious and works like a spall liner.
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Should have aimed a little to the left and would have been an easy kill. Fuel tank eat spall from side and there 0 ammo to explode because most people take 14-18 ammo on t-80.
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nah just works as intended just like how you can ohk the abrams just by pointing at it with just about any starter round at rank 7
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