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Not true anymore since last major patch.

Oh no, it’s a little slower.

That is not why it is the best air RB flight model and you know it.

Casually pulls a supersonic notch at 13+gs without pilot blacking out

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Settle down, you’re behaving as if because the Rafale can pull 17Gs and the Euro can pull 16Gs, that the Rafale still ends up overall better when that isn’t true while the Euro now holds a major card over it when it comes to flight model.

This is true for the Eurofighter as well. Do I need to provide a clip?

Euro only wins the duel in the fm department.
It is much worse in air rb due to how terrible the ergonomics are.

Rafale feels like it’s gliding on silk
Eurofighter feels like a bobblehead in a shaking car

Again, there’s a reason why they weren’t using Eurofighters last pro league tournament.
The fm is a contributor to that

That does matter. When it comes to two great players, missiles won’t kill either of them, and then the Euro wins.

You write as if Rafale has zero issues and the Eurofighter has all the issues and no redeeming factors. Public opinion and YouTubers are largely agreeing now that the Eurofighter-AESA is contesting the Su-30SM2 for best air rb aircraft.

That has no bearing on actual air rb, tournaments aren’t the same thing.

Missiles will end the fight 90% of the time.
They are the deciding factor.

Euro can try notching all it wants, the rafale can still shove a MICA in its face the moment it leaves the notch.
If a df happens, the euro starts at a major disadvantage

Lol?
Many people still think Su-30SM2 is worse than rafale

Current top 2 is tied between Su-30SM2 and rafale in air rb.
Su-30SM2 simply just requiring a higher skill floor

No, they are not.

The general consensus is Raf/Su-30 tied 1st/2nd, Euro 3rd

Not against two great players who know how to notch and is willing to make use of all tactics including MCM.

Some def are.

That isn’t true, in fact there’s been several arguments and discussions on whether or not the Eurofighter AESA has taken it from the Su-30SM2.

I have yet to see this lol.
No AMRAAM plane is good enough to take that spot.
Simply because of AMRAAM being well, the AMRAAM.

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None of the relevant content creators I know have done this.

Yes, they will.
Offensive kit is a major factor in how an aircraft performs.
Probably the most important one.

Been under a rock?

I can go on and provide more.

Who are the content creators you consider relevant? Or is General Lee and some of the other big names considered irrelevant?

General Lee never states the Euro is the best aircraft.
As for the statshark performance.
It is well known that British Typhoons performed better than others due to having guess what? The rafale on their team.


Never heard of the second guy
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Also what?
AMRAAM platform being better than something with R-77-1/R-27ER here?
lol?

Go play something other than the rafale please.
You’re just larping atp

Specifically MiGan (obviously) as well as Bad Karma are the main two

Neither of these two are particularly good authorities on the strength of a plane, this is like posting that Tim’s Variety video as an in depth guide on defending ARH missiles

When did I say that they’re right? Best not to jump to conclusions on something I didn’t say, I said that there are people including YouTubers who are having this conversation and taking up that argument. I could also include Seekerhead who said the EFT-AESA is better than the Rafale as well.

Discussions by people who frankly aren’t exactly good voices of authority on the strengths and weaknesses of certain planes compared to each other is irrelevant to the actual strength of a plane. If say Bad Karma or Migan Fox-3 had opinions and reasoning on top tier planes, I would be much more inclined to take their opinions at face value.

That’s a whole other topic, anyway I already agreed earlier that the Eurofighter was the weaker of the 3 when it comes to air rb and even agreed it needed some buffs. I just disagree that it is as weak as some make it seem, the Eurofighter-AESA also takes a dump all over 14.0-13.7 aircraft.

I want a TVC ARH missile so baddddd :((. Sadly US never made one and i still have not reached Britain top tier :((. But 120B not bad either