I think you mixing the AMRAAM-ER WITH C5 the C5 has nowhere near max kill zone of 25km not even on plane going mach1.2 as I said the only arh can hit 25km from ground lunch and have kill zone of 25km is AMRAAM-ER 25km is to hit fast a manoeuvring target 50km(which is max range is for slow and drones) or afka planes in game
and you mentioned the 120D which is as you said highly likely to hit 20km on manoeuvring targets as it has 50% more range then C5
That’s not really true.
American doctrine reduced SHORAD only in the last 20 years because we were kicking the crap out of dudes with no AF and we had a finitely limited military.
Before that we had SHORAD and had several projects in development that we only shelved because the USSR fell apart And we’ve already started bringing them back now that we’ve wound down our counter insurgency mission set and are revitalizing our large scale combat operations (LSCO) focus.
There are plenty of American, or systems America uses we could add to the game, especially if they start modeling things like the dual seeker of the stinger correctly.
M6 Linebacker, Avenger, NASAMS high mobility, SLAMRAAM/CLAWS, Sgt Stout SHORAD, Mobile HAWK
Then there are several small batch specialty vehicles that exist as well. Atleast two different JLTV variants with either the 25mm or 30mm chain gun with proximity fused rounds and F&F air and ground missiles etc.
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my bad i mix that up with NASAMS
thats wild damn
if it actually there it might be good thing
all of those you suggested are either old systems or systems with stingers. America just doesn’t have top modern shorad systems anymore like it used to, adding slamraam/claw would either give 4 amraam truck with no search radar, and the claws is stationary, making it an easier target to cas. The best thing for US is to add israeli shorad systems that the us has invested into.
plz add this bad boy sl-amraam and aim9x campo is going to be deadly
and as we can see in game, we have Similar missile to aim9x which is type81c
C5 with 10to15km is not that op and you can notch and chaff it
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You may not realize this, but there have been updated versions of those trialed for the M-SHORAD program. Even if they just used the stingers, if they actually correctly modeled the dual mode seeker and IRCCM they’d be very relevant threats.
The updated M6 linebacker prototype got a 30mm M230LF with proximity rounds, and a choice of Stingers, ground launched hellfires or the AIM-9x
The Sl-AMRAAM which was integrated into the NASAMs program as the high mobility launcher has both AMRAAMs and AIM-9X’s, both of which can LOAL, or utilize datalink.
And the US military has NASAMs and the M-SHORAD, as well as the only mass produced DE SHORAD system currently afield.
So saying the US doesn’t have SHORAD, is a very incorrect, and blanket statement.
And being an old system doesn’t really mean much when the systems are BR’d by capability not age. A well modeled mobile HAWK would be a very relevant system, despite the fact that it’s older than most kids playing the game.
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In 2007 raytheon introduce the development of the SL-AMRAAM-ER.
Also I am fairly certain it most often was sold and used C-7s.
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us has more mideum range air defenses and really short range defenses, but not a modern shorad. The hawk would struggle against modern cas which can easily out manuver the missiles, and a standard hawk launcher only carries 3 missiles at a time as well. NASAMS would easily outrange competitor shorad systems.
The US has NASAMs and two different M SHORAD vehicles, one being the only laser SHORAD in scale production. Saying they don’t have a modern system is entirety false.
And the Hawk and I-Hawk are not being outmaneuvered by “modern CAS” they went away because the Patriot is more capable, not because they weren’t plenty lethal. There’s a reason they’re still in service
Plus if you really want to go down that road, the Hawk system has been modified to fire Sparrow, AMRAAM, and Standard MR and AGM-78, so there are plenty of options….
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export variant abrams? lol
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We can only dream but I wouldn’t be surprised if this was added as a way to balance top tier at the moment, SU-34 and F-15E spam is too oppressive at the moment.
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Sure, but War Thunder doesn’t care about effectiveness or PoK (very much) - I mean the R-27ER never would’ve dominated if they did care. My list was based off of range over anything else.
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I getcha
M727 Hawk, for USA, Israel, Italy, Sweden
Is a medium altitude Sam
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Not just the US, pretty much every nation that isn’t Russia needs more SPAA.
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Do we think the MML (Multi-Mission Launcher) Could be a viable option? Seeing as its got multiple variants, such as the ones seen carrying SL-AMRAAMs, and the more modern one, having 15 launchers, and a towed FCS radar (the AN/MPQ-64 to be specific).
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honestly IDK, it definitively would fit in game but im not sure how much of an improvement it would be over ADATS because right now aim120 is very easy to notch
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Depends what’s loaded i would think. I believe it could load either AMRAAMER or 9Xs.