“But, but Gaijin, X nation has Y, so A nation deserves B!!!”
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Gaijin is “working on” SPAA for the US. The M163 was added in 2016, so not sure why it takes nearly a decade to work on more mid tier US SPAA.
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I think they could have the same SPAA with different ammo to cover different BRs so for example one DCA for France with AA ammo only at 4BR and another with AP at 5.
Same with M42 for Italy ,One with limited ammo and one with much more at differing BR s.
Take the AP from the duster and it could be at 3.3 or 3.7
It would fill gaps and stop tank kills raising SPAA BR to near uselessness for AA work.
Yes I know, I already checked and some vehicles were pushed to the Devs. I am just trying to raise an awareness a bit again, because you know, without it Gaijin just does what it wants :)
Please tell me you just didnt say M163 has better gun than Shilka. Shilka has much faster turret & gun handling and it has 4 good guns. M163 doesnt even has a stabilizer, so you have to be stationary to shoot. I would much rather use Shilka - even without radar - on 7.7 than M163 with its shitty tracking radar.
Yeah I agree, that will always happen. Still, if even 50% of players use it as SPAA, its a win :-)
If you dont like it when its put that way, let me rephrase that; “US doesn’t have any SPAA in the range of 3.3 BR, which is a problem”. Happy?
Hah yeah. TBH I kinda hope that they will make a dedicated SPAA patch, giving premium SPAA to every nation and filling all the SPAA gaps that need it xD
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Totally agree.
SUB I-II (Japan) and ZSD(China) are beginner friendly and can even deal with tanks.
go hitting something with the 163… this is by far the worst 7.7 spaa while being the most promising on paper (6k rpm, tracking radar under 2.5km and inaccurate, very unreliable damage. The shilka w/out radar has 4 high rof guns, making it way more reliable to hit and damage targets. What USA needs is:
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It takes so much time because they’re busy adding multiple mid-tier SPAA to countries added years after the US…
And now you know why it’s 7.7. All SPAA in War Thunder around BR 7.7 are an effective range of ~2.2km.
Which is about accurate since the best CAS has an effective range of ~2.2km, and it’s 8.3.
That suggestion wouldn’t fill 5.7 as that’s 4.3 material, a sidegrade to the M19.
if you can’t see its absolutely incompetent of gaijin to put in yet another Russian AA in a place where it wasn’t really needed, while other nations have SEVERE holes in their lineup, you are severely one eyed and not interested in a fair fight.
This reeks of bias.
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I hope Gaijin has something in the works to fill the gap, I’m getting tired of half the team being in F4Us and P-51s only to get slammed within 30 seconds and the rest of the team is at the mercy of Gaijin and the hordes of Do-335s and Pe-8s
So USA getting multiple SPAA in future updates is bias how exactly?
There is no bias.
@CorruptShadows9
It’s already confirmed there are multiple anti-air assets in production [development] for War Thunder that will go into the United States tech tree.
Hopefully we get them within these next 2 updates then
There really wasn’t much to choose from IRL between the Duster and the M163. The gap isn’t artificial.
Gaijin COULD give the Duster HE proxy, since it could carry that.
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how much you want to bet that Russia will get another spaa
Maybe they could reduce SP for CAS fighters where there is no SPAA, make balance in other ways and reflect historical reliance on air superiority.
Trouble is nations dont fight alone in this game.
If Gaijin can fabricate the Ostwind II, they can make up a Duster based SPAA to fill the gap. Also, there are a number of prototype SPAA models that would fill the gap. It’s just laziness on Gaijin’s part.
How about they just stop “fabricating things” altogether.
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If gaijin still believe that radar SPAA like ZSU37-2 or VEAK40 can be 7.7, I think M163 could be 7.3, and it also need apds as well, or we can remove the radar and send the M163 to 6.7, just like zsu-23-4
The skink was one of the longest suggested vehicles in this game’s history. The T77 was not far after. Now we have the skink. Still waiting on the T77.
There are many prototypes and things that did not enter service. We could also get an updated model of M163, or at the very least just make the 163 actually work.
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Proxy for duster would be awesome but I think that would shoot it up to 8.3 at least.
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