The F-15I is a straight downgrade to the F-15E in Air SB. It also simply doesn’t matter because Israel is always paired with US.
What point am I missing exactly? I answered your incorrect statement:
It’s not in half the game modes, case closed.
Blame Gaijin rather than players for not giving the F-15I their domestic weapons. The community push for it was insane, and a lot of the players you’re blaming right now also supported it. The F-15E receiving the 229 was only logical and similar action should be supported for all nations. RU mains would rightfully throw just as much of a fit if another country received a Su-35 with better engine, even though Russia could also get it.
It’s not. The I has more countermeasures and less drag. You’re only trading the maverick for that but the SDBs are already more than enough to nuke an entire frontline if the goal is to play ground objective
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Blame Gaijin for not giving them their native weapon, THATS WHAT IM DOING. Blaming Gaijin for ignoring every single report and request made by anyone who isn’t America. Blaming Gaijin because for SOME reason they will add the MUCH more powerful engine to something because some US mains whined, but ignore other detriments to other nations for YEARS.
We could argue back and forth on F-15E and I and which is better, I do not C a r e. Who did Gaijin listen to? NOT anyone else. Who DID they listen to? the US mains.
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US mains this, US mains that. lol.
Many people who are not ‘US mains’ still supported the decisions. The RU forums was also VERY vocal about it but I guess you didn’t know that?
Gaijin caved in because the US tree is not only the most popular tree in the game(->money) but because community pressure was heavy. The two of them put together led to quick changes. This has been a common thing for years when it come to major tree(US, USSR, GER) vs minor trees.
As said, Israel might possibly get their domestic weapons next patch. Smin possibly hinted at it back in devserver. And this wouldn’t have been possible without ‘US mains’ also mobilizing to give Israel the weapons they deserve.
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There’s been plenty of people already talking about how the whole popularity contest thing is a load of crap and shouldn’t decide the game’s balance and priority, but I guess you didn’t know that
Everyone else has to wait years to get their reports heard. US can get it in a week. End of story
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It has all to do with money. Gaijin is going to cater to the trees that have the most players first and foremost to maximize profit. They’re not a charity association but a business that wants to make money. We don’t have to agree with it but that’s how it is.
Well yes they’re going to cater to whoever makes the most money, that’s why we need to be vocal about how much it hurts the game
The flight performance is the same.
Both planes have more than enough countermeasures. They also just have outright flight performance that is untouchable by Red side planes.
The AGM-65 allows F-15E to target convoy objectives whereas the F-15I is limited to ground battles only. It also allows the F-15E to destroy an entire ground battle and then go destroy the whole entire air defenses of an airfield.
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YOU think it hurts the game, because you’re mainly playing the game as a minor tree(France).
Now if you look at it from Gaijin’s standpoint, WT has hit peak player on Steam earlier this year and will most likely break the record again with December patch with the leaked release of the Rafale and Eurofighter. No doubt they’re also making record profits with people throwing themselves on the new expensive high-tier premiums like the Click Bait. Why would Gaijin start spreading out their limited resources catering to minor trees when their current behavior is clearly working from a financial and player retention standpoint?
The only chance you’re ever going to get of having your tree fixed is by uniting with the rest of the community rather than crying about ‘US mains’ getting a deserved buff on the F-15E.
Except they’re not? The F-15I is slightly better, as I said above. It’s a tiny margin but it’s still a reality. You can argue that all you want but the chart you posted there proves it. Once again, saying the F-15E is better in everything when the I is the better plane in any air-to-air scenario right now is either dishonest, or ignorant. Pick your poison.
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Once again you’re missing the point entirely for your own head-narrative.
If people think the game is hurting because their nation and beloved vehicles are neglected, then they deserve to be vocal. They deserve to show that there’s people there, and therefor a reason for Gaijin to pay attention.
And that’s what this is. Being vocal that there’s other nations out there besides the burger-brains
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Do you know how to read?
The time to accelerate to 1500kph at 5000m is 1/2 second faster for the F-15E. The F-15E has the smallest possible advantage in turn performance and energy retention. Are you really going to tell me that you think that this is a decisive advantage?
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Please take the time to read what I said instead of instantly defaulting to me somehow missing the point. Just because YOU think the game is hurting doesn’t mean the game is hurting when you look at it from a global view. In fact the numbers would contradict your claim.
That’s exactly why Gaijin is NEVER going to pay attention unless the community is united in its demands, especially for minor trees. It was already a headache to get the 229 on the F-15E and US is a major tree. Youtubers also talked about it quite a lot.
And you’re doing yourself a disservice everytime you act like that:
You really think the ‘burger-brains’ will want to mobilize to support fixing your minor French tree when this is how they’re treated? Yeah. Ironic that you would realistically need their support to ever have a chance at your community push being succesfull.
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Do not care what the star-spangled spastics who think they’re the only deserving nation says
There’s a lot of US players who are actually quite great and want everyone to be buffed to realistic standards. But then there’s people like you, who immediately go all defensive when its questioned, act entitled to be handheld, and then deny it and make excuses when it’s called out.
Save the entitlement btw, I’m going to bed rn as is
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Do you not read my posts on purpose, or do you not understand English? One of my first post from the very same topic you’re in:
Not only do I support minor trees being fixed but one of my main tree is Israel, one of the most forgotten tree in the game by Gaijin. But as said, keep doing yourself a disservice by acting so obnoxiously toward a group of people you need to fix your tree.
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HMD was, and is, important at top tier because it makes rippling off multiple missiles easily possible and any jet without it is at a severe disadvantage.
The 15A was better than the SMT sure, but at release the 15A was broadly worse than the 27 due to a multitude of issues.
The 15A had wings with the strength of wet tissue paper (the 27 had some problems with wing tip too, but it was harder to rip them), it only had 4 9Ms with no HMD, and Sparrows at the time were not only worse spec wise than the ERs but they would also veer off course relatively often.
At the same time the 16C was completely superior to the 15A at the same br so most people, if they wanted to play US, just used the 16C though that did change when the 15A was moved down. This also wasn’t helped by the fact that most people already had the 16C, as it came in an earlier update.
Personally from that time I would rate the jets like this:
- Gripen
- F-16C
- Su-27
- Mirage 4k
- F-15A
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cant say I have as I am a US main and don’t play sim much, still interesting though
Thats actually not true. The Germans have the most players and that by a significant margin. its just gaijin somehow deciding the favor the RU and US in terms of premiums. Some say Its bad decitions and some individuals go as far as to say thats its anti-German racism but i wouldnt go that far. Al so if Gaijin gave germany a worthy Top Tier Plane that is actually worth ginding for then they could sell WAY more premium planes but they dont.
Its not a big deal when you have the best FM in the game and dont need HMD to make your aircraft even remotely playable but when you’re using a flanker that struggles to keep up with some 3rd gen aircraft you do need HMD, not to mention the Su-34 is even heavier than the normal flankers along with having more drag.
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No they dont the US has the most players on average
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says who? YOU? beacuse you are such a good representative of facts, logic and reasonability. look at any vote on what the most played nation is and it will go 1. Germany 2. USA 3. USSR and the rest is irrelevant