It means you can pick targets out of the sky way easier, that’s how I do it in my A-6e tram. Very useful.
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Me too, you 4 AIM-9M, you can out-turn anyone, and misiles prefer flares than the A-10 …
At 11.3 we are gonna destroy Mig21bis !!!
And I will not fly Team B at 11.3 anymore, I guess I’ll not be the only one, and Team A will be outnumbering Team B by far
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It should have no impact on BR placement. Considering the limited view, a low resolution on the Tornado TPod (or at least Tornado Gr1) you can barely pick out targets all that far. Let alone VID enough to fire. Also… Why are you trying to dogfight in a Tornado Gr1?
If you want to dogfight play a Phantom or Tornado F3.
I might use a tpod on the Harrier Gr7 because that is an aircraft actually capable of A2A combat and with a 12.7 BR and sub-sonic, you are forced to quite often. But again, Gen 1 tpod. you can barely VID from all that far
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A-6E is at a BR where Aim-9Ls might find targets without flares and is sub-sonic. I can see the A-6E being fairly usable in A2A combat. The Tornado… Why the hell are you trying to dogfight Mig-23MLDs
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At least you get a thermal pod the Su-24M is stuck with the usual soviet/russian forward looking only sight without thermals that forces you to stare directly at whatever you’re attacking unless you use TV
What’s funny, is the KA-50 in game, which is now 11.0, is the upgraded model, (dev blog even said it was the upgraded one). with the night vision kit which had gen 1 thermals, yet it didn’t get them, yet pretty much every
Other premium heli got them.
They just hate Russia I guess.
Since the only aircraft that get thermals are the top tier helis.
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You do know the ENTIRE reason we no longer have any PvP heli modes is because the Ka-50 and Ka-52 why completely OP and broke the gamemode for everyone else right?
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So?
“There is US bias” completely broken heli for years. “I see nothing wrong with it.”
Soviets are not neglected in game. They were dominant for years. Mig-23MLD was OP and top dog for years. R-27ER broke BVR combat and was the reason everyone started hugging the deck.
The only reason soviets are no longer dominate is because AMRAAM has leveled the playing field.
Claiming the soviets suffer is just pure cope at the moment. US and USSR get more handholding indiviually than the other 8 nations get combined.
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The mig-23 was the last time they were actually dominant since then its been NATO vehicles
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Let me put it this way. If the argument is that the Su-24M gets R-73s at 11.3 because the A-10C gets Aim-9Ms.
Then the Tornado Gr1 at 11.7 should get Aim-9Ms because the Su-39 has:
- 2x R-73s and 2x R60M
- Rear-aspect IRCM (makes you immune to rear aspect IR missiles)
- Can out turn the Tornado with ease
- (if you have skill) 16x Vikhrs missiles to also use in A2A combat
- one of the tankiest and most resistant airframes in game
- a Radar with IFF.
and its the same BR.
That it. Thats what the OP is asking for and how he is trying to buff the Su-24M to OP levels.
Quite frankly. The only reason the Su-25s are so low with their loadouts and capabilities. Especially the ones with a good radar with IFF. Is pure Dev Bias.
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The ka-50 wasn’t broken for years it got its br moved up rightfully and just became whatever the UHT was the dominant heli back then even in the old heli pvp the UHT would be shitting on everything if there was one
I disagree. But that was on gaijin, the Tiger UHT was also a beast, let’s not forget that
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Vikhrs were nerfed into oblivion a long time ago now they cant hit a stalled out biplane even if you tried.
Have you played an Su-25?? What usually happens is you get hit once and lose all your control surfaces its not like the F5C where you need to drop a nuke on it just to kill the thing.
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I watched an Su-25K I think it was survive 3x Direct hits from AAMs in an ARB match not that long ago. 2 of those were my Aim-9Ls. Finally finished it off with a long burst of 30mm ADEN canon fire.
The Su-25 airframe is the only airframe I have ever seen survive more than 1 direct hit with a missile. Seen the Odd F-20 or F-5 survive direct hits from 1 missile before, but never 2.
Heck I’ve even seen a Su-25 survive a direct hit from a Red Top before. One of the largest warhead missiles in the game. That thing was designed to blow bombers out of the sky and the Su-25 shrugged it off.
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The tiger uht was never the bain of peoples existance while annoying at times compared nothing to the KA. Hell they were the main complaint for helis surving AA missiles pushing for the interals to be added to helis.
23MLD - October 2021
F-14A - June 2022
Years?
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Ah, that reminds me that we still haven’t gotten the proximity fused APKWS. Right now there is no reason to bring them.
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The Ircm on the Su-39 is only usable in rear aspect, side aspect, it’s DOA.
The r60s almost always miss, r-73s are 50/50
16 Vikhir? You mean 12?
I hit an A-10 with 3 pansir missiles not too long ago, he went back to his AF and landed.
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