Use reverse around corners.
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M19 has the entire ammo rack put on like a flower necklace, and also it’s no reverse gearbox like Turans.
And it still can’t flank as well as M42 does.
These are all true. Though, if youre around a corner as the duster you still have the ammo necklace.
Pretty sure the ROF on the kugel is a lot better too
You know, thinking about it Thodin does kinda have a point but they are just going about it wrong. The solution isn’t moving the M42 up its actually just that they should add hullbreak back to open top vehicles (as well as all vehicles under 10 tons)
Ostwind 2 which is basically the same thing but with worse pen is 5.3, just saying
No comparison. The Ostwind II is a much better anti air. You also get APHE, which can lead to hilarious kills. Like shooting a T-44-122 in the face to disable his gun and getting a kill instead because one round bounced into the hull roof and the ridiculous postpen nuked the whole crew. Or shooting the cupola of a Magach and destroying it in one shot for the same reason.
No, a straight forward comparison. They’re leveling out at the same point. Ostwind is a better anti air? Yea. Much - not really. In exchange it lacks the mobility, like all of it. And the ability to reliably angage targets. Which in combination with mobility leads to you know what.
To be at the same BR it is on right now - M42 should lose all of it’s anti-tank capabilities, or go up a full br.
If you ask me - the mobility equalizes them in terms of anti-air capabilities, because in low tier CAS slamming the density of fire stands behind the surprise and evasion.
Doubt.
This is the American Duster in June 2026.
This is the Japanese Duster in the same month:
This is the Ostwind II:
This is the Ostwind Ost:
Abysmal win rate aside - which is a product of the fact that inexperienced players without a lineup spawn them when they’ve run out of other vehicles to use, that is to say when the match is likely already lost - you can see that the Duster and the Ostwind have a similar KPS and K/D when played by major nation players.
In fact, the Ostwind Ost overtakes the American Duster and comes very close to the Japanese Duster. If there was an Ostwind II in a minor tree, you would see even better stats.
So, if these vehicles have similar competitive results while being at different BRs, this means that the different BRs are justified. Simple as.
It absolutely is a much better anti air. There’s a reason it’s even used in SQB for that purpose.
And while less reliable in an anti-tank role, it’s pretty good at that one, too, thanks to the power of APHE.
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The base Ostwind already has both a higher velocity (900 m/s vs 874 m/s), a better firing rate (250 rpm vs 240 rpm), more potent high-explosive projectiles (3,7 cm M.-Gr. 90 g of HTA w/ 1.2x modifier for 108 g equivalent vs 40-mm Mk. 2 63 g of TNT w/ 1x modifier for 63 g equivalent), and is significantly more protected with both the ammunition being stored internally in the sponsons rather than externally around the turret and the turret providing more protection than the gunshield of the M19/M42.
The Ostwind II is even better with 500 rpm. They are absolutely much better at anti-aircraft duties than the M19/M42, and no amount of “mobility” equalizes that. The only benefit the M19/M42 has over the Ostwind is the faster traverse and elevation rates, but the Ostwind is still fast enough to track the targets it faces.
I think Italy and israel are the only nations without high pen spaa´s at low br´s. the title irrelevant since the same weapon is on a 2.3 french truck
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Ostwinds have too low penetration to reliably engage standard tanks. Its a huge diffrence whether you have over 70mm pen (the magic number for autocannons) or just around 50mm pen. Most tanks will be immune to your fire, except for occacsional lol shots. Ostwind’s and other Panzer IV based SPAA’s are also very slow and not maneuverable. The Duster excells in mobility in a WW2 setting, and alot ppl really love to spawn the US ones as first spawn unit to snapcap and to hunt tanks. Dusters can successfully engage most tanks at their far too low BR. Ostwind has APHE…ok…but 50 pen is just 50 pen. Fast firing autocannons also rely less on filler ammo, pen is the most important stat. Even if one penetration doesn’t do killer damage, the next shot follows up immeadely…and the next…its a hail of bullets and every target succumbs after few secs or penetrating fire. Even if its just a 30mm without filler.
Filler / APHE matter alot more for tank main guns which need several seconds of reload time. Not so much for autocannons.
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I would much rather have 48mm APHE than 72mm AP. Anything with a cupola or a protruding hatch is something you can kill by just spamming autocannon APHE.
Kugel pens 77mm. With it, I would not have frontally killed that T-44-122 or that Magach.
Naturally, since they are much better at this than at anti air duty.
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Technically that is wrong, and should have the same x1,6 like the other Hexagon based mix explosives. HTA stands for Hexagon, TNT, Aluminium. Which would boost it to 144g. Killakiwi made a report some time ago Community Bug Reporting System
Nope, never did unfortunately, according to its manual
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Gajin isn’t based enough to add this, but the Ostwind and Ostwind II should theoretically be able to handle heavier armor…
There was also a solid shot AP available, which would be a little less crazy. Similar but slightly lower pen to the 40mms.
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No? If you do know of one let me know. c:
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It was definitely in one of your cannon threads…
Then it most definitly turned out to be a missidentification of the 700g Pzgr.18. That i had corrected.
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