They do, the Apache can fire the 30MM rounds the A-10 fires.
Can you explain how a gun chambered for 30x113mm can fire 30x173mm? I’m genuinely curious, I’ve never heard about this before.
This is an extremely shoddy website that was last updated in 1999, without any cited sources for PGU-14/B to be used in the M230. Meanwhile, the actual manufacturers of the ammo indicate nowhere on their website that the ammo types are interchangeable, nor is there anything on how you would physically fire 30x173 out of a chamber for 30x113.
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I honestly don’t care if you think the website is shady, you must be new to the internet as this site has been used in bugs reports before.
And did those go through? Was it used as a primary source? And this exact page?
Besides, for a bug report you would need to have multiple sources about this, and it still doesn’t answer the question of why no other sources mention this capability, nor how you would fit said bullet inside.
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Those are armor piercing, they have a heat warhead, you could theoretically have the standard ap or sap from the defas but you would those would pen like 30 or 35 mm at 100 m which is much worse than what you already have…
They dont.
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" they can "
i was literally told " the devs dont feel that the apache needs their other ammo" Just like the AH-G4D apache can fire dagr fire and forget missiles. Why aren’t they in game?
It cant, a10 uses a 30x173 and the m230 uses a 30x113, it physically cant.
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Only it can 30mm Cannon Ammunition (fas.org) there was a source up, but its no longer on the internet.
It doesnt dude, even your source doesnt say that, they are just listing 30mm ammunition, never does it says that the apache are compatible with 30x173…
“The 30mm lightweight family of ammunition was developed to optimize the air-to-ground mission of the U.S. Army AH-64 Apache helicopter. This ammunition family is also compatible with all 30mm x 113 gun systems.”
After that they list the ammo type for the 30mm x 113 and guess what they only have hedp hei and pt.
At least read your own source before stating stupid things…
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You still didnt address why the AH-64D doesn’t have its other weapons like the dagrs.
I would assume the DAGRs have not been added due to their similarity to APKWS, which are already pretty useless, and DAGR would not change that, unless it has a significantly stronger warhead than the dumbfire hydras.
And 114Ls are still controversial but Gaijin has stated multiple times it is because you can’t counter them with smoke, unlike Spikes or PARs.
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dagrs are not similar to the broken APKWS they have in game. DAGRS have a fire and forget mode.
yeah and you cant counter the new russian agms with smoke either, even vihkirs somehow still hit through smoke, and the newer missiles the yare going to add for R.U are just over kill.
Which new missile?
Sartt seems to be mixing up round calibers, the M230 can fire all NATO standard 30x113mm rounds, this includes those from the likes of the DEFA series, which, happen to include AP rounds.
Now, are you getting the same MV, I would doubt it, but such rounds are still usable in the M230.
30x173mm though, nope.
I believe this conversation was held with the same result a while ago in a different thread as well.
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It’s quite literally a Cirit in effectiveness… There’s no reason to have one over a hellfire apart from a faster missile to engage helicopters.
the high explosive KH missile gaijins adding in the next patch. .
The mv is probably the same as on the nexter 30mm from the tigers when using standard 30x113