I was looking at the F111F in hangar and realised it had a glossy finish. Now I remember from when I was a kid watching discovery channel that this new paint scheme included RAM. radar absorbant materials. Most USAF aircratf had this by 2000’s. The idea was that the nuetral grey scheme was better for upper middle atmosphere than the Black found on the F117.
I knew instantly that this was wrong. So I did a little research. And found this:
Operation Have Glass I/II.
Anyway the paintscheme specifically is called FS 36118. For that aircraft, but by the 2000’s all US aircraft or most had it. Like the B52h in game has that scheme.
I was wondering how much of this was modeled in game to affect RCS with different load outs, angles and paintschemes.
The F111’s for example put Plutonium on there triple plow intakes to absorb incoming RADAR signals.
Finding information is hard, but the B1b had this paint scheme and that is well known for being stealth.
I am having issues finding information. The internet gets locked down because of COVID and what not. Getting information is harder than it seems, but I remember! The intake cowls had a Plutonium coating that would emit alpha particles and beta… Probably evan gamma… IDK the exact isotope. But this forcefield would absorb incoming RADAR to a degree as well.
I had it on the old forum if anybody can remember. The source is gone about the Pu coating on intakes, but it is real.
Here triple plow ii & i pictured respectivly.
Notice the gold Pu coating on the inside of the triple plow ii intake.
I highly doubt this is modelled, since it’s possible to lock on to an F-117 with an aim-9B. I don’t think paint is used much to determine an aircraft’s radar cross section in war thunder, especially since so much of it is classified
F-111F radiation-absorbent material coat painting is definitely not a War Thunder feature, if was so, a lot of airplanes would have for example the french Rafale and other late 4th-generation plus airplanes.
Because Aim-9B is a infra-red guided missile, it doesn’t rely on radar reflections to be able to lock and launch at a target. However, itself is lacking a reduced heat signature due to the engine nozzle. The slit-shaped design of the engine nozzle should reduce the heat signature, which just like RAM coat, is also not a in-game feature.
Unfortunately I can tell you from 1st hand experience that to get a bug report through you will need to provide exact RCS values.
I tried to do one on the F-2As composite wings and it was shut down real quick for lacking detailed RCS values.
Yeah, I was just trying to say that gaijin pretty much just ignores some modern stealth features
I think they could figure something out. They have a sheet with RADAR cross sections. The b1b had a tiny cross section. Up against is the FB 111a on there sheet. Who know what wing configuration, but I think they carried six external fuel tanks. I know gaijen has modeled this a little bit because the Rafale and F18 is harder to lock on to.
The F111 was designed to out run IR seeking missles. This is more about enemy being able to track and lock on to you via RADAR.
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I found this cheat sheet and factor in the low visibility paint and Pu intakes. Like it is probably harder to lock on to intakes when the intake is retracted, but faster moving targets are also easier to find…
Here this sheet show a B1b to be smaller than a Rafale D, but we don’t know the wing configuration and B1b is mostly clean, but you have the s ducts and same paint job. The rafale D is supoosed to have these features well and be evan harder to find.
" The SR-71 Blackbird’s radar cross-section (RCS) was famously low for its size at subsonic speeds, estimated at roughly 20 square inches to 110 square feet (
However, at operational speeds of Mach 3.2, its ionized air and hot exhaust created a massive radar signature, potentially ballooning to 10 square miles.
Design & Stealth: The aircraft utilized specialized shaping, such as canted vertical tails and engine inlet spikes, to scatter radar waves, combined with iron-ferrite radar-absorbing paint.
Operational Reality: Despite its “low” signature, it was not invisible to advanced radar, but its high altitude and speed (over 3,200 feet per second) were its primary defenses.
Thermal Factor: At top speed, the intense heat ionized the air around the plane, creating a “fuzzy ball” effect that made it detectable, though hard to track for missile locking. "
And stuff that goes evan faster mach4-5+ in the hypersonic regime has a plasma shield in front of it that absorbs incoming RADAR. ie… Some of these missiles.
But, the Aim9B is a heat seeker missel. Evrey Plane emits heat, thats why i get killed in GRB by FIM9K from Ozeloz. I am pretty sure f117 is made to be invisible from radars…
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exact rcs values… I don’t think would be written down anywhere. The aussies had to bury there’s out in the desert because they were nuclear planes. They didn’t want any body to get there hands on that technology. I was just wondering since the triple plow intakes were triangle shaped which is known for being stealth. I watched a discovery show on F117. They actually invented ray tacing to get the shape of the F117 as tiny as possible in the 70’s. The same ray tracing we now have in video games. this should be easy to figure out.
