Upgrade the M1 KVT to M1A1 KVT and hide it (or not) in the Gaijin Store or change the the M1 KVT owners' to M1A1 HC Click-Bait

Yes. Because 11.0 is(was) top tier lol.

Irregardless. Its odd and extremely poor implementation to leave something wrong like this

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M1 KVT is just a good-looking XM1 in terms of its performance :P
Hope you guys get what you want

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War Thunder is a game about realism.
KVT is an external package designed for all Abrams not just M1A1, it could be an M1A2 and still realistic.
The only reason KVT was put on M1A1 and no M1 Abrams was because M1A1 was the reserve tank at the time.
A few years earlier when M1 Abrams was still reserve tank, well IPM1, then it’d be that tank instead.

There’s already an 11.3 premium tho, M1A1 HC.

Show me any other Abrams with the KVT package, and I’ll accede.

But until there was at least one other Abrams variant that mounted it, it’s strictly unhistorical to have the M1 KVT ingame as is.

And in terms of the 11.3 premium thing, the M1A1 KVT would be 11.0, meaning that similarly to the TURMS-T and 2S38, it and the new HC prem would make for a good lineup.

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No it’s not.

I have to say, I just dont think thats true. The M1 and M1A1 have pretty different turret designs atleast, and the KVT was simply a modification made for VISMOD training, during the time if the M1A1, not the M1

TURMS and 2S38 are completely different vehicles, meanwhile M1A1 KVT and HC premiums would be almost the same vehicles, with a single BR step difference.

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…Meaning they’d be an even better lineup? You get two versions of a fantastic MBT, the only catch being that most of its users would be garbage

Even though that’s already the catch

They sold you an M1 Abrams, not an M1A1, KVT is just a fictional cosmetic, they didn’t sell you a fake vehicle, they sold you an M1 Abrams with dress up.

0.000% chance of Gaijin upgrading your premium, and tbh, I don’t think they should. Gaijin might not make right calls all the time (or at all) but you can’t blame them you bought a premium and aren’t happy with it. You knew what you bought

Haha buy based on innuendo. The joke tells itself.

No they dont, because even a T-62 front pens an Abrams M1A1 turret lol

Liar. You forgot to mention the unmodeled auto loader, and absurd survivability, with better ammunition at every BR vs the US except when the US finally gets A2.

And every APFSDS T-62 and post, pens the turret cheeks on the M1A1. And yes, I do. It deserves 10.7, russian mains cry cry cry the second they dont steam roll. God forbid they have a challenge. Remove its A2 and give it A1. Or move all russian 10.7s to 11.0. Oh wait you didnt think to say that, I guess all 9.7s who get curbed by russian 10.7s dont exist either. Dont even get me started on the TURMS fighting 9.0s

Because youd literally be aiming at a non-hull portion. They arent some “fuel tank magic” like you have on Russian tanks, maybe thats why you were mistaken. The Abrams fuel tanks are literally outside the tank, with the real LFP only being in the middle. A LFP that shouldnt be pennable at all, and your argument is kind of insane. Like you seriously thought that was a gottem? If you shoot for the fuel, then youll hit the fuel…

And no, the UFP rarely bounces if ever, and if you do bounce (it should shatter not bounce), your lucky self gets penned in your under armored turret ring with your oversized turret neck gap

Its not innuendo. They literally said they only couldnt because of the BR/Tier ceiling, and acknowledged the KVT should be an M1A1 IRL.

Explain the CV105 then

You are delusional.

Better ammo but with much worse mobility and gun handling. You see, tradeoffs.

That’s exactly what you’re asking for when demanding M1A1 to go down to 10.7. You want something to steam roll with.

You are so lost dude.
I already said it doesn’t have A2, but you are still writing complete nonsense.

Russia has only one 10.7 tank, so it’s singular, not plural.
I mean, you’ve shown you don’t know M1A1 doesn’t have A2 and now this, I’m wondering do you even play the game ?
Also, T-90A is much worse than M1A1 and deserves to be a single BR step below.

You can start but there’s not much to it really.
Tanks are strong in full downtiers by design, it’s nothing new.

They will eat whole rounds when shot from sides as well.

Oh so the armor anlysis is accurate when it fits someones narrative but wrong when it doesnt fit another 🤔 It happened to me the other day. I was in disbelief. Idk if its a bug or what, but the Abrams are literally light tanks

The acceleration is better or the same, except reverse speed and top speed. This game doesnt have 5kmx5km maps, accel is by far the most important, and you dont need speed if you can eat 6 KEPs and still keep fighting

Oh my god can you stop. Why wasnt that the argument when you said M1A1s vs 9.7s was absurd, holy shit whats wrong with you.

No, they dont, the abrams is one of the most one shottable tanks ever, it literally has zero side armor the only rounds it “eats” are the ones that cook it off, kill its engine or fully disable its fighting ability. Stop pretending thats the same as taking an entire shot to the side where a round disappears into the void. When we say “eats rounds to the side” that doesnt mean it needs a followup shot to kill, we arent talking about how it should always die instantly if side shot, were talking about how if an Abrams is shot in the side its fully disabled waiting to die, where as T80s only have red ERA or yellow turret ring with black ammo

M1 at 10.3 can bounce those early darts, let alone M1A1.
Even if you got shot from angle where the plate is less angled, it still produces the same results. Do you have any videos of that ?

You are clearly wrong.
Tank with 18.1 HP/t (TURMS) won’t accelerate at the same rate as something with 27.2 HP/t (M1).

Because it will be much better than even 10.3s, let alone 9.7s ?

Happened to me more than once, so yeah, they will.

No. I Regularly get my turret, LFP and UFP penned, go play it. I dont record my deaths, im not masochistic. But go watch that guy killing an M1A1 with an M60 over and over again

Good, it should happen atleast twice, its a god damn abrams, but its rare

I’ve played a bunch of tanks with the exact turret protection as M1A1, they can and will bounce even top tier rounds, let alone early ones.

Something as unusual as 3BM4 penetrating the cheek of M1A1’s turret should be recorded.